View Full Version : Early call all-in with AKs

07-19-2005, 09:17 PM
I figured when greatjets min-raises, then calls that big all-in, he must have a really strong hand. Standard laydown, yeah?

***** Hand History for Game 2391967892 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14086072 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, July 19, 21:12:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 13942 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 6: woppyye85 ( $1940 )
Seat 8: ben0719111 ( $1200 )
Seat 5: BubbaKnows ( $350 )
Seat 2: greatjets ( $780 )
Seat 1: sponge ( $785 )
Seat 10: JoshuainMN ( $870 )
Seat 4: pattywack85 ( $1305 )
Seat 9: fincler ( $770 )
Trny:14086072 Level:2
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to pattywack85 [ Kd Ad ]
greatjets raises [60].
pattywack85 calls [60].
BubbaKnows is all-In [350]
woppyye85 folds.
ben0719111 folds.
fincler folds.
JoshuainMN folds.
sponge folds.
greatjets calls [290].
pattywack85 folds.

07-21-2005, 06:50 PM

07-21-2005, 06:54 PM
I dunno if I can do this, but it looks right.

Slim Pickens
07-21-2005, 06:56 PM
At the 22's there's a distinct possibility that he sucks. I'd say push. Half the time he calls showing AQ, TT, or worse. With the third player in, I think you're getting proper odds here. For me, it depends strongly on what PlayerView is showing me as I'm deciding what to do. VPIP<15% and it's a fold, VPIP>25% is a push, and in between is tough.

07-21-2005, 06:59 PM
You could very well be against two smaller aces here. The short-stack all in is probably a pair...but could be a big ace.
If I felt I still had a lot of room to move if I lose (and drop to about 900) I'd call this quick. But I don't mind the fold.

07-21-2005, 07:00 PM
yes, i would push.

This is not like he went all in for 800+ chips and then he cold calls that. That would most of the time be a monster.

This smells alot like KJ, AQ to me. I know alot of times he will turn over KK AA, but he could turn over KT all the way to QQ which you want to see. (not so much QQ, but all the other hands you dominate.) Alot of players minraise not just expecting to reraise all in, but to try to 'get value' on their kq etc.

i am poor player though, so maybe a fold is good too

Slim Pickens
07-21-2005, 07:12 PM
Alot of players minraise not just expecting to reraise all in, but to try to 'get value' on their kq etc.

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...especially players coming from ring limit HE backgrounds.

07-21-2005, 07:40 PM
You have to call. You're getting 2:1 with AK and you're not risking your tourney. Do you remember how these donks got so short already?

edit: Ack. Just noticed utg wasn't all-in. I think I just push. There's a pretty big overlay if you're racing and it's unlikely that it's Aces or Kings. Most of the time the min-raise is a pretty weak hand this far out of the money.