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KingDan
07-13-2005, 07:18 PM
Early in 50+5 no reads blah blah.

***** Hand History for Game 2358600398 *****
Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, July 13, 19:11:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 12379 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: dreep111 ( $810 )
Seat 6: KingDan24 ( $1000 )
Seat 5: shobri ( $970 )
Seat 3: fairway1 ( $940 )
Seat 4: pattyc555 ( $45 )
Seat 1: libby1115 ( $1250 )
Seat 9: naw_butzie ( $1615 )
Seat 8: big1jon ( $1415 )
Seat 2: CliffHanger7 ( $985 )
Seat 7: saroundtree ( $970 )
Trny:13906013 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to KingDan24 [ Ac Ah ]
>You have options at Table 14038 Table!.
pattyc555 calls [15].
shobri folds.
>You have options at Table 12953 Table!.
KingDan24 raises [60].
saroundtree folds.
big1jon folds.
naw_butzie folds.
dreep111 calls [60].
libby1115 calls [60].
CliffHanger7 folds.
fairway1 folds.
pattyc555 is all-In [30]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 9c, 6c ]
>You have options at Table 14528 Table!.
KingDan24 bets [150].
dreep111 is all-In [750]
libby1115 folds.
>You have options at Table 14528 Table!.
KingDan24 calls [600].


Before anyone gets excited, I am not thinking of folding AA here. With my standard preflop raise, I can have a variety of overpairs. Which, if any, do you fold?

freemoney
07-13-2005, 07:25 PM
none, i really dont like folding overpairs almost ever.

KingDan
07-13-2005, 07:27 PM
This an extreme example showing the fact I don't fold them enough even when I know I am [censored].

***** Hand History for Game 2358670902 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:13905981 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Wednesday, July 13, 19:24:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 14038 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: ZYLBER1 ( $2715 )
Seat 2: Monaco_Mike ( $905 )
Seat 3: HtotheTH ( $710 )
Seat 4: KingDan24 ( $1555 )
Seat 6: reiglefarms ( $315 )
Seat 7: gigagiggity ( $875 )
Seat 9: mfw0015 ( $2925 )
Trny:13905981 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to KingDan24 [ Jd Js ]
KingDan24 raises [175].
reiglefarms folds.
>You have options at Table 12953 Table!.
gigagiggity raises [400].
mfw0015 folds.
ZYLBER1 folds.
Monaco_Mike folds.
>You have options at Table 12953 Table!.
HtotheTH folds.
>You have options at Table 14528 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14528 Table!.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
>You have options at Table 12953 Table!.
KingDan24 calls [225].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Tc, 6s ]
KingDan24 checks.
gigagiggity is all-In [475]
KingDan24 calls [475].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
KingDan24 shows [ Jd, Js ] a pair of jacks.
gigagiggity shows [ Ah, Ac ] a pair of aces.
gigagiggity wins 1825 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
>You have options at Table 12953 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12379 Table!.

lastchance
07-13-2005, 07:45 PM
Too many chips in the middle after preflop for you to even think about folding after calling preflop. Calling preflop, IMHO, is just awful here. Push/fold.

KingDan
07-13-2005, 07:52 PM
He's a good player and I figured minraise meant kk-AA. I know my play sucked.

I rationalized preflop by I will win all his chips blah blah if I hit, and induce a bluff on flop .
And flop I wasn't really thinking, just OverPAIR1!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

SammyKid11
07-13-2005, 08:02 PM
I'll be honest, I have a tough time folding any overpairs here. The board looks very much like someone's all-in on either QJ or 2 clubs. Why else would you raise all-in right away here? Say you had 99 -- would you throw in that quickly and risk getting no action from AK? So yeah, I think I'd have a tough time dumping any overpair, but certainly not AA. If they turn over the set -- well then that happens sometimes.

Edit: I'm talking about the first hand posted.

KingDan
07-13-2005, 08:19 PM
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I'll be honest, I have a tough time folding any overpairs here. The board looks very much like someone's all-in on either QJ or 2 clubs. Why else would you raise all-in right away here? Say you had 99 -- would you throw in that quickly and risk getting no action from AK? So yeah, I think I'd have a tough time dumping any overpair, but certainly not AA. If they turn over the set -- well then that happens sometimes.

Edit: I'm talking about the first hand posted.

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I agree, but I don't fold overpairs enough and I wasn't sure if this was an example. With aces its clear, with jacks maybe not so much (but I call anyway)

ilya
07-13-2005, 09:20 PM
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I'll be honest, I have a tough time folding any overpairs here. The board looks very much like someone's all-in on either QJ or 2 clubs. Why else would you raise all-in right away here? Say you had 99 -- would you throw in that quickly and risk getting no action from AK? So yeah, I think I'd have a tough time dumping any overpair, but certainly not AA. If they turn over the set -- well then that happens sometimes.

Edit: I'm talking about the first hand posted.

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I agree, but I don't fold overpairs enough and I wasn't sure if this was an example. With aces its clear, with jacks maybe not so much (but I call anyway)

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With Jacks I would be reluctant to call. Not so much because I'd be worried about overpairs, but because it'd be a lot less likely that he's on just a straight draw.

Vetstadium
07-13-2005, 09:42 PM
Yes call call call.