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Angelic_Ace
05-19-2005, 07:14 AM
People often calculate their pot odds based on # of Outs to draw to a straight or flush, or imagine themself in a 'coinflip' situation with pocket pair vs. two broadway cards.

It seems most odds calculations though assume that all of your outs are still in the deck, not discarded by other players in the tourney. Is there a formula for calculating the probable number of 'true' outs. For example if you have a four-flush on the flop against one opponent, with six other players having mucked pre-flop, would you assume having 9 outs to the flush, or would it average out to more like 6-7 true outs??

This is something I was thinking about when using the cardplayer odds calculator, and when I see the %'s given on TV poker. They will show pocket pair vs. overcards as 55-45, but isn't that only if none of the overcards were mucked?

olddominion
05-19-2005, 07:35 AM
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but isn't that only if none of the overcards were mucked?

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Yes it is.