View Full Version : Opponents improving

01-16-2005, 05:54 PM
lets say on any given flop you have top pair, lets say you have 1, 2 or 3 opponents and they will call to the river if they have any pair, what are the chances thay any one of them will spike 2 pair by the river, how about 2 pair or a set?

01-17-2005, 03:00 AM
It depends on whether you are running bad or not. If you are then it is 100% certain the fish draw out. Like today's 20/40 at the Bike. -$1700. The fish got there every time. Oh well.

01-17-2005, 04:54 AM
I have a simple system I use for calculating odds. The more outs you have the less acurate it gets.

X*Y*2=%chance you'll hit

X is your number of outs, y is the number of cards yet to come.

Thus, if an opponent has pair the flop, but you have an overpair, he has 5 outs and 2 more cards to come. He has a 20% chance of catching. This system undervalues few outs and overvalues many outs, but it gives you a rough estimate.


01-18-2005, 06:41 AM
I am aware of single odds where one player is drawing, the chances the next card will hit. but how do you calculate if 2 or more are drawing that either one or both of them will improve?

01-18-2005, 04:27 PM
It depends on how many of them are sharing outs.

01-18-2005, 08:39 PM
it also depends on how many of them hold outs for the others.

KK vs AQ is very different from KK vs AQ AQ AQ AQ /images/graemlins/smile.gif