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J_V
11-11-2004, 03:39 AM
http://cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archives/showarticle.php?a_id=14359

Awesome interview. Some of his comments gave gave me goosebumps. Some good quotes..
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If you see me playing longer than 20 hours, Iím usually winning. Thereís a reason Iím staying that long. Itís time to dig in.


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As I started coming up through the ranks and playing higher and higher, I realized that you learn at every level. Thereís a big difference between playing $400-$800 and playing $4,000-$8,000

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I havenít seen one yet. I always want to play as high as I possibly can. Iíd like to play $8,000-$16,000 if I could, but it may not be the best thing. People always ask me if I need to gamble that high, and I think I do if I want to get better. You canít be afraid to lose.

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Iíd see side games at the tournaments where they were playing $4,000-$8,000, and first place would be $600,000 in the tournament. Iíd dump off my chips. Thatís why I wonít play now unless I try my hardest. I made my mind up right before I went to Turning Stone. I told my wife that I wasnít going to be traveling to play tournaments unless I put all of my attention into it. Itís just a waste of money otherwise. From now on, there are no excuses, because Iím trying my hardest.


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The best players can tell when another player is adjusting or thinking about adjusting, and then itís back and forth. So, if you do have a strategy, youíd better be willing to change it. Like Mike Tyson said, ďThey all have a strategy until they get hit.Ē

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I'm stealing that as my go-to line. And yes, I might be turning in a WPT forum loser.

I want to be Phil Ivey.

Robk
11-11-2004, 04:29 AM
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And yes, I might be turning in a WPT forum loser

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if this were true you'd have noticed someone posted this interview in the WPT forum already. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

jasonHoldEm
11-11-2004, 04:29 AM
Good read, thanks.

jrobb83
11-11-2004, 04:52 AM
Damn this guy can put up some hours.

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CD: How much time do you spend online at FullTilt?

PI: I try to play about 10 hours a week.

CD: How much time do you spend playing live games?

PI: I put in between 50 and 90 hours a week. I put in a lot of time playing poker.

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turnipmonster
11-11-2004, 10:37 AM
another good one:

Itís also the same with any job. You need to be able to compete in all games. You need to play no-limit, pot-limit Omaha, no-limit deuce-to-seven, limit holdíem, stud, Omaha eight-or-better. Not only do you need to know how to play all of those games, you need to know how to win at them.

Philuva
11-11-2004, 02:12 PM
You missed the best quote:

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(Philís wife overheard this and said, ďSo, thatís where those went. I thought you lost them.Ē ďYeah,Ē he said. ďI lost them in the garbage can.Ē ďThose were nice sunglasses,Ē she said. ďYeah, so nice that they cost me a $100,000 pot.Ē)

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J_V
11-11-2004, 02:39 PM
Anyone know this Henry Orenstein guy or have played with him?

Goodie54
11-11-2004, 02:51 PM
He's a toy inventor turned poker player. He's had some high finishes in the WSOP and might even have a bracelet. I've never played with him, but I think he's solid.

Peace

Goodie

Bulldog
11-11-2004, 05:15 PM
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He's a toy inventor turned poker player. He's had some high finishes in the WSOP and might even have a bracelet. I've never played with him, but I think he's solid.

Peace

Goodie

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You think he's solid? Nah. All he did was own a 400/800 game in AC and kick PHIL IVEY back to the 75/150 game for months and months; he probably can't play a lick.

colgin
11-11-2004, 06:02 PM
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Anyone know this Henry Orenstein guy or have played with him?

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Isn't he the guy who came up with the idea for the "Poker Stars" show on Fox Sports? I think he invented their camera-in-the-table way of seeing hole cards.

Men the Master
11-11-2004, 06:04 PM
He is a stud specialist who won a WSOP bracelet in stud back in the early 90s.

theantelope
11-11-2004, 07:20 PM
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PI: Some people might be very good poker players, but Iíll end up winning because Iím a better gambler. When I say that, I mean that I know when to quit, when to keep playing all night, when my opponentís off his game, and when Iím off my game.

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CD: Do you ever play for an hour or so, and leave if things arenít going well?

PI: No, thatís ridiculous. I sit down for at least six hours.

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theantelope
11-11-2004, 07:35 PM
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If thereís anyone I canít beat, itís just the randomness of poker. When I first started playing $400-$800, Henry Orenstein used to beat me all the time. He personally kept me broke for six months. I would sit and grind out in the $75-$150 game all week to build up my bankroll to play in the $400-$800 game. Iíd play, and heíd break me! Iíd go back down and play $75-$150, build up again, and heíd break me again. This kept on happening. I donít think I beat him one hand in six months.

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Bill Murphy
11-11-2004, 08:49 PM
He is. Also a Holocaust survivor & possibly the oldest WSOP bracelet winner. Mike Sexton told me that he was involved in a huge pot that gave Hugh Vincent such a large lead going into the '94 final table.

J_V
11-11-2004, 11:58 PM
It's not a contradicition, what he's saying is very clear.

When someone beats your AA w/ 7-2o he is not "beating" you. In fact, I'd call that the randomness of poker.

The word beating mean two different things.

Popinjay
11-12-2004, 05:28 AM
JV, did this reignite your thirst for poker knowledge?

Lawrence Ng
11-12-2004, 05:59 AM
The one thing I admire about Ivey is that he is unafraid to take on the best and learn from the best. Orenstein kept whooping his ass and he still came back to challenge Orenstein again and again.

Ivey doesn't give up and he knows that failure is his ultimate teacher. Way to go Ivey.

J_V
11-12-2004, 06:36 AM
YES!!!


It really did. It only lasted 5 minutes, but maybe when I have some more time and less lead for immediate money and I'll reread that interview, go run 3 miles, workout, hit some balls on the range, and go log my 90 hours /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

theBruiser500
11-12-2004, 08:08 PM
"JV, did this reignite your thirst for poker knowledge?"

That's always my reaction when I read about hte big game players. It was interesting that Ivey said he still really enjoyed poker. Good post JV.

mike l.
11-12-2004, 10:34 PM
"Thereís a big difference between playing $400-$800 and playing $4,000-$8,000"

i wonder what on earth those differences are.

"People always ask me if I need to gamble that high, and I think I do if I want to get better. You canít be afraid to lose."

there sure have been times this year when i wished i had been more afraid to lose.