View Full Version : Going against the math

11-07-2004, 02:43 AM
Is it possible to win money playing casino games with extremely small house edges, not counting bonus whoring? IE, blackjack. Before anyone says anything, I'm fully aware of the math. I know over the long run you will lose because even with optimal play, the house has about a .5% edge. But with the variance, your BR goes up and down a bit. If I go to several different online casinos, play a few hands of BJ, then cash out when variance is in my favor and I'm up, can I profit in the long run? Again, I know mathematically the answer is no. I know changing casinos shouldn't matter because it's still the same game. But... practically, can it be done?

For example:
You go to Casino A. Deposit $200. Play with $5 bets. Your BR will vary up and down, over the long run going down slightly. When your BR hits say $250, you cash out and on to Casino B to repeat.

11-07-2004, 02:51 AM
When your BR hits say $250, you cash out and on to Casino B to repeat.

[/ QUOTE ]

What makes you think this will always happen?

11-07-2004, 02:53 AM
Going to cassino B won't make any difference. You are still under the same variance.

I don't get your point, because you seem to know that too..

11-07-2004, 04:02 AM
Mindless contradiction.

11-07-2004, 05:08 AM
Yea its called card counting
I love all the mimbo jumbo i here when Im at a casino counting cards
Everybody swears that their winners and they play basic strategy "most of the time" but sometimes go with their "hunches"
I love it when some old guy thinks hes a blackjack guru and tells me hes been playing this game for 30 years and he knows what hes doing and Im just some punk 22 year old. Oh yea and i change the shoe. Hopefully one day I change it into Angelina Jolie
What am I gonna do tell me thats I cant belive somebody could do something for 30 years and suck so bad or that I understand math better than 99.99 percent of the population

I usually just laugh mainly because I dont want to attract attention to myself, but don't worry kurush you can be just like this old man 30 years from now and like all the idiots who go to the casinos 3 days a week and wonder where their money goes
Don't worry the casino gets most of it I just take a little

11-07-2004, 09:40 AM
It is possible to win money using your system. If you take $200 to a site, and stop if you hit $250 or $0, and if you don't hit $0 go to another site to and do the same, you will probably hit $300. When I say probably I mean you would have 60%-66% chance, depending on how you play. However, you are risking $200 to get $100 profit, so your expectation will still be negative, this is something you will never be able to avoid with out some really good card counting, or cheating.

Play poker instead.

11-07-2004, 11:27 AM
With no house advantage, if you start with $200, you could hit $250 80% of the time without going bankrupt. That there is a house advantage means you will hit $250 less than 80% of the time instead of going bankrupt. With $5 bets on blackjack, you will reach $250 roughly 75% of the time. You will win 75% of the time, but that's not a good deal. You can't add together bad deals to make a good deal.

11-09-2004, 11:45 PM
This system makes no sense whatsoever. You can't "go against the math" in games like this. It is all one lifelong session.