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Monkeyslacks
10-09-2004, 04:39 AM
"Wow! You played poker for a living this summer? How much did you make?"

Over and over and over I'm asked this question and I find it somewhat offensive. My default response is to say I'd rather not discuss it, but this seems a bit prickish. Any more gracious approach out there? Does this question bother you?

bernie
10-09-2004, 05:51 AM
If this question offends you, loosen up a bit. Realize how the average person views gambling.

I mean really, what do you expect them to ask? What benchmark would they even be aware of that would be less offensive?

You could always just say, 'couple hundred...' and leave it at that.

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jdl22
10-09-2004, 06:09 AM
How about x bb/hr? Otherwise just say 20 bucks an hour. THat may be high or low but it's a believable number either way.

spamuell
10-09-2004, 06:20 AM
"What makes you think I won?"

Monkeyslacks
10-09-2004, 07:18 AM
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If this question offends you, loosen up a bit. Realize how the average person views gambling.

I mean really, what do you expect them to ask? What benchmark would they even be aware of that would be less offensive?

You could always just say, 'couple hundred...' and leave it at that.

b

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You echo my thoughts here. I can't fault them too much for asking.

I say, "I played for a living this summer."

They hear, "I won the lottery."

What bugs me is that when a casual acquaintance mentions he got a job, immediately asking his salary is pretty poor form.

I really like the "couple hundred..." remark. I think I'll adopt that one.

The once and future king
10-09-2004, 07:30 AM
At least they didnt ask you how much did you win this summer.

I get annoyed by this. In Pub friday night. Some very casual aquintance who knows I play poker: "How much did you win today?" I answer with some figure "Wow the beers are on you then."

As though the fact that I had won is some act of blind luck and not having just sat in front of a computer grinding it out for 8 hours and having endured streaks of death etc during the preceding days that the quoted win has just adjusted to my normal ROI.

daryn
10-09-2004, 09:23 AM
just man up and tell them how much you made.

why is it in poor form to ask someone how much they are making? that seems like a very pertinent question. i know my friends aren't the type of guys that would care if i asked.

i don't mean to insult you if it sounds like it, but just asking.

beernutz
10-09-2004, 01:50 PM
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"Wow! You played poker for a living this summer? How much did you make?"

Over and over and over I'm asked this question and I find it somewhat offensive. My default response is to say I'd rather not discuss it, but this seems a bit prickish. Any more gracious approach out there? Does this question bother you?

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To paraphrase a Dear Abby response, "If I knew you well enough, you'd already know the answer to that question."

lowroller
10-09-2004, 02:40 PM
Here's an idea....don't tell them you played for a living this summer.

Monkeyslacks
10-10-2004, 06:12 AM
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just man up and tell them how much you made.

why is it in poor form to ask someone how much they are making? that seems like a very pertinent question. i know my friends aren't the type of guys that would care if i asked.

i don't mean to insult you if it sounds like it, but just asking.

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Just bugs me. I can't rationally justify it other than to say it is commonly thought a social taboo. One of the reasons I posted the question was to see if it bothered others...

I'll try to loosen up.

Monkeyslacks
10-10-2004, 06:19 AM
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Here's an idea....don't tell them you played for a living this summer.

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Impossible. Every student in law school has to know what everyone they know did with their summer. We are all massively insecure and can't stand the idea that others are getting further with their careers than we are.

Fitz
10-10-2004, 03:27 PM
I don't play professionally, but most people who know me well at all know I play as a part time gig. My closest friends I'll tell the truth to. Most people I just tell them "I'm doing fine", "It was a good summer" etc. My mother is in her late 70's, and she has come to live with me. She doesn't have a problem with the poker, but I use a trick I read about from Daniel Negraneu with her. She'll ask about any given session, and I'll tell her I won a couple of hundred. I told her about a $1500 tourney hit one time, and it cost me a new queen sized bed for her room.... lol.

Good luck all,

Fitz

Fitz
10-10-2004, 03:39 PM
Oh you are in law school. Well, I'd suggest getting into a NL game way over your head and getting busted by a Russian mobster. You could then hook up with a buddy who is just getting out of the pen, and maybe you could vouch for his debts with some low life who is unknowingly backed by the Russian mobster.

Play some poker win some pots; get your ass kicked by some cops. Then play a last minute heads up game with the Russian mobster for the whole nut. Hopefully, there is a hot girlfriend, benevolent law professor and box of Oreos in the story, or you are screwed.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Good luck,

Fitz

jomatty
10-10-2004, 09:36 PM
i generally say sometimes a lot sometimes less then nothing. if its someone i know well i might giggle and say something about an hourly rate at the end of the month but usually i dont get into it.

Ray Zee
10-10-2004, 09:54 PM
ive learnt that never tell strangers you are a gambler. if you do get cornered and asked just say thats personal.
when a person i dont particularly like asks, i always ask, since we are getting personal does your wife fake it when they make love.

Mike Gallo
10-10-2004, 10:02 PM
Don't tell anyone you played poker for a living over the summer.

balkii
10-10-2004, 10:06 PM
if people ask how much I make, I say

"well, its varies. sometimes you win, sometimes you lose." and then I tell them "the most I have ever lost in a day is about 1000$."

balkii
10-10-2004, 10:09 PM
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Don't tell anyone you played poker for a living over the summer.

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i dont get this. why not? are you suggesting he not tell anyone simply because he doesnt want to be asked this question? or just in general should he not be telling people?

Rushmore
10-10-2004, 10:16 PM
I always answer:

"I did just fine, thank you. Now will you please direct me to the nearest shelter, and may I get one of those Newports for the walk over there, please."

SmileyEH
10-10-2004, 10:22 PM
I like telling people how much I've lost more than how much i've won in a day lol.

Strange.

-SmileyEH

Blarg
10-10-2004, 10:55 PM
People know asking someone their salary is taboo in American culture, so they're rarely that rude.

With poker, they don't really think of it as a job, even if you say it is and it's your only income. So asking away is par for the course. Plus, people find it interesting and it makes for an interesting daydream and fantasy, so they're even more compelled to ask. If you're making great money doing something dull, probably nobody wants to hear word one about it.

Maybe you can get a BMW keychain or something and just flash it at them, maybe saying nothing or maybe supplementing it with, "Enough to keep me in these."

Or you can go the low income road with, "Enough to keep my Hyundai in oil changes every 3,000 miles."

Or you can laugh it off with, "Almost enough to support my heroin habit."

Or if you want to be a rude jerk, "Enough to keep me out of the funny pages, Charlie Brown."

Sponger15SB
10-11-2004, 12:14 AM
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I like telling people how much I've lost more than how much i've won in a day lol.



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Me 2. I get a kick out of seeing that reaction rather than "how much have you made".

If you really want to freak them out: after you say how much you've lost in a day (or week or so), take a $100 bill out of your wallet and light it on fire.

daryn
10-11-2004, 12:18 AM
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I like telling people how much I've lost more than how much i've won in a day lol.



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Me 2. I get a kick out of seeing that reaction rather than "how much have you made".

If you really want to freak them out: after you say how much you've lost in a day (or week or so), take a $100 bill out of your wallet and light it on fire.

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hahaha.. that is the funniest [censored] you have ever said. i gotta try that one.

astroglide
10-11-2004, 12:29 AM
If you really want to freak them out: after you say how much you've lost in a day (or week or so), take a $100 bill out of your wallet and light it on fire.

that would be awesome

Joe Tall
10-11-2004, 01:24 AM
Just ask them how much money they made.

Peace,
Joe Tall

DrSavage
10-12-2004, 01:53 PM
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ive learnt that never tell strangers you are a gambler. if you do get cornered and asked just say thats personal.
when a person i dont particularly like asks, i always ask, since we are getting personal does your wife fake it when they make love.

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I also assume you do it while pointing your gun at their face.

Mike Gallo
10-12-2004, 10:53 PM
are you suggesting he not tell anyone simply because he doesnt want to be asked this question?

Exactly.

If he doesnt want to give the answer, then don't give a reason for the question.

riverboatking
10-13-2004, 03:02 AM
i literally laughed out loud when i read that.
seriously funny sh.it.

god i hope i can do that some day.

classic.

J_V
10-13-2004, 04:14 AM
I'm with you. Tell them exactly what you made.

J_V
10-13-2004, 04:16 AM
Nice Sponger.

MicroBob
10-13-2004, 10:23 AM
I can generally understand where you are coming from with this.

Some of my friends I'll just say that I'm making about double what I made at my previous job.

I naturally felt the need to brag to a couple of friends that I made a big score in an online tourney a few weeks ago ($12.5k).


Bumped into a friend (and former roomate) at my coffee-hangout a couple weeks ago. We'll usually make plans to get together and play chess sometimes or something like that. Later I waved adios to him on my way out the door. He was talking to a different friend of his at the bar and I distinctly heard him say the word "poker" so I suspect he was telling his friend 'see that friend of mine....he plays poker on the internet FOR A LIVING. How cool is that?' or something like that.
Haven't bumped into my friend since then but I might mention to him that I really don't want him blabbing about my poker-as-a-career bit to every Tom, Dick and Harry in Memphis.


On my adult-league soccer-team that I'm on I decided not to tell any of them what I do for a living just because I don't want to be asked a zillion questions about it.
but I believe I have come off as rather snobbish when innocently asked 'What do you do Bob?'



It's all kind of tricky if you ask me.
Anyway, for the most part, the friends who know that I play poker for a living also know that I study rather intently and that I am looking to make my $25/hr or whatever.

I am visiting my Mom in Wisconsin in a couple of weeks and all of my aunts, uncles, cousins, etc etc will likely be asking me non-stop questions about my big-tourney win (that i'm sure my mom has blabbed about) and how much I make generally and how it works and aren't I concerned with all my money being on the internet, and isn't it illegal to do what i'm doing?? etc etc etc.

I like my relatives a lot....but am not necessarily looking forward to the 3rd degree about my current little career.

MarkL444
10-13-2004, 11:55 AM
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My default response is to say I'd rather not discuss it, but this seems a bit prickish.

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More than just seeming a little prickish, this response is only going to make the person more curious about how much you made. You are leaving it up to their imagination to decide, and they may come up with a number far higher or far lower than the truth (perhaps even losing). When you say "Id rather not discuss it," the last thing they are going to think is that you made some normal amount of money.

Cry Me A River
10-13-2004, 12:47 PM
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but I believe I have come off as rather snobbish when innocently asked 'What do you do Bob?'


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Just tell the you work from home in IT on the Internet..

MicroBob
10-13-2004, 01:22 PM
I do say something like that....but it feels like a lie when I say it (even thuogh it's kind of true) and I'm not a good liar so it comes off as very weird.

I guess I'll just have to start fessing=up to what I do or learn to become better at the old 'worl at home on computers' line.

WDC
10-13-2004, 01:47 PM
having been through law school and understanding the ultra competitive nature of most of those asking; i would answer more than you did working at XYZ firm and I got to look at porn while I was working

WDC
10-13-2004, 01:50 PM
he's in law school; they will share that information with glee (although don't trust the accuracy)

Turning Stone Pro
10-13-2004, 02:09 PM
I read a post like this, by a clown looking for an indirect, coy way to brag that he is some type of winning player, and I know automatically his game is second-rate.

Keep the rookies coming, ESPN and Travel Channel!

TSP

Monkeyslacks
10-13-2004, 06:05 PM
You are very perceptive, a respected poster, and a worthwhile addition to these forums.

goofball
10-13-2004, 06:46 PM
i'm not sure what you do for a living is so personal.

frequently after meeting someone the very next question asked is "what do you do"

it seems very rude of me to respond to that question with a question about his wife's orgasms.

Cosimo
10-13-2004, 09:43 PM
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frequently after meeting someone the very next question asked is "what do you do"

it seems very rude of me to respond to that question with a question about his wife's orgasms.

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You're right, asking what you do isn't so personal as to warrant Ray's response. But just so you're clear on this one, goofball, the question under discussion is "Wow! You played poker for a living this summer? How much did you make?".

I don't play for a living, but my hobby is short-term high-risk investments, traded over the internet. How much do I make? "I'd rather not say."

goofball
10-14-2004, 01:52 AM
i know, i was replying only to his post.

as for the issue at hand, i'd say tell people if and only if you want to. the problem i frequently run into is if i tell someone i was 2k yesterday, they expect me to buy them dinner or something.

Blarg
10-14-2004, 02:38 AM
What do you do for a living isn't too bad, but it's really just a very thinly veiled try at a question considered very rude -- "How much do you make." People feel okay asking both of poker players, it seems, but would never ask anyone else that question. Which goes to show the esteem and respect the person asking the latter question generally has toward poker players, and feels it's fine to exhibit.

Cosimo
10-14-2004, 12:01 PM
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What do you do for a living isn't too bad, but it's really just a very thinly veiled try at a question considered very rude -- "How much do you make." People feel okay asking both of poker players, it seems, but would never ask anyone else that question. Which goes to show the esteem and respect the person asking the latter question generally has toward poker players, and feels it's fine to exhibit.

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Gambling isn't working; if we were just gambling as a hobby, there wouldn't be much to "so, how much did you make at the slots yesterday?" Although asking about salary is considered rude, it's still something everyone wants to know. I think there's a little bit that people turn off so they can ask this question without feeling out of place.

So I don't think it's so much less esteem for poker pros as players, but rather as poker itself as a "job."

Lottery Larry
10-14-2004, 12:01 PM
"but I believe I have come off as rather snobbish when innocently asked 'What do you do Bob?"

Answer- "I'm a day trader in high-variance entertainment opportunities... but it's too volatile to go into the details" :P

jakethebake
10-14-2004, 12:06 PM
Just say, "Wow! You clerked for Dewey, Cheatham &amp; Howe (or whomever) this summer? How much money did you make?"

Duke
10-14-2004, 02:31 PM
And when he says no, you always have: "That's good. Your wife fakes it every time with me."

~D