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bigpooch
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Reged: 09/17/03
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Re: The Sklansky-Karlson All In No Limit Holdem Rankings
11/01/03 05:14 AM

David:

Karlson's numbers don't seem correct. Consider KK:
The number quoted is 1290+ but look at this calculation:

Assume (with a benefit to the KK!) that KK wins about
19% of the time vs AA:

There are 50C2 = 1225 possible hands:

AA (6): EV = (x+2)(0.19)-x(0.81)
KK (1): EV = (+3)(1/2)
other (1218): EV = +3

Thus, for the EV to be >0,

6((x+2)(0.19) - x(0.81)) + 1(1.5) + 1218 (+3) > 0
solving yields x as approximately 983. It should
be a tiny bit less since KK doesn't quite win 19%
of the share of pots versus AA.

Cheers,

"bigpooch" a.k.a. "mangler"

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