suited connector odds

[rybones]

In sng play the starting stacks are so small and the blinds rise so quickly that it is rarely wise to play drawing hands. The common advice is to avoid connectors, But then it is also said playing small and medium pairs is great as long you you fold when you don't hit your set. I happen to think the same type of logic should be applied to connectors. Just like a set, they are great for getting paid off when you really hit a flop. That said I do not have the math to prove this to myself. Alas, my question: what are the odds of suited connectors hitting two pair, or a full house, or a straight, or a flush. Note, I am looking for the combinded odds of hitting anyone of these hands. As a side question, am I right that a pair improving to a set on the flop is 8:1?

Thanks in advance to anyone who has the answer.

Ryan

[LetYouDown]

This is like the new 3 doors problem. Search function is your friend. Check out this post, which links to another post about the exact same topic.

[rybones]

Thank you for the link. However, the problem with that link and the other information I have found is that is always includes hitting 4 to a flush or a str8. In an sng, it is rarely wise to chase a draw. Someone may argue that you should then push your draw; however, in low limit you will get called too often to make this profitable. What I need is either the odds or someone to tell me how to do the calculation.

Anyone?

Ryan

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What I need is either the odds or someone to tell me how to do the calculation.

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Sounds like: "Please someone, teach me how to use my brain."

You can't do any math or are you just lazy?

[rybones]

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You can't do any math or are you just lazy?

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Actually no I really can't "do" math. I read the post the other guy linked to and the math made sense -- kind of -- but not to a point where I could figure out the equations to calculate the made str8 and flush hands and then combine those with the 2 pair, 3 of a kind, and full house odds.

Plus, I thought the forum was exactly for "teaching people how to use their brains." A person canot do what they do not know until they are taught.

Thanks for the kindness

Ryan

[BruceZ]

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You can't do any math or are you just lazy?

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Actually no I really can't "do" math. I read the post the other guy linked to and the math made sense -- kind of -- but not to a point where I could figure out the equations to calculate the made str8 and flush hands and then combine those with the 2 pair, 3 of a kind, and full house odds.

Plus, I thought the forum was exactly for "teaching people how to use their brains." A person canot do what they do not know until they are taught.

Thanks for the kindness

Ryan

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You can't make a straight or a flush and at the same time make 2-pair, trips, or a full house, so you can just add the corresponding probabilities from this post. The 3.47% for 2-pair or trips includes full houses and quads.

about 24.7%

[BruceZ]

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about 24.7%

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No, 5.6% if you add the numbers for 2-pair, trips, full house, straight, and flush. You added the 8-out straight draws and flush draws.

[rybones]

Thanks a ton!!!

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about 24.7%

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No, 5.6% if you add the numbers for 2-pair, trips, full house, straight, and flush. You added the 8-out straight draws and flush draws.

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right, I thought he wanted draws too, my bad

[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Dave