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Old 07-14-2005, 01:59 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default 109s - Set of 6s

How would you have gone about getting your stack in?
I'm ashamed of my turn raise. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Trying to get him committed for the river, but he'd probably have called more.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Button (t1290)
Hero (t985)
BB (t990)
UTG (t940)
UTG+1 (t850)
MP1 (t1915)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t1065)
CO (t1050)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t30</font>, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t105) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t50</font>, MP2 calls t50, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t205) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t350</font>, MP2 calls t150.

River: (t905) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t555 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls t485 (All-In).

Final Pot: t1945
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:04 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: 109s - Set of 6s

I would have bet just a touch more on the flop and turn. So like:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Button (t1290)
Hero (t985)
BB (t990)
UTG (t940)
UTG+1 (t850)
MP1 (t1915)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t1065)
CO (t1050)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t30</font>, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t105) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t75</font>, MP2 calls t75, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t255) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t175</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t850 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls t430 (All-In).

River: (t905) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1945

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Old 07-14-2005, 02:05 PM
sng-sam sng-sam is offline
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Default Re: 109s - Set of 6s

I actually like the turn bet it looks like ur scared of the ace. But that's my very humble 10+1/20+2 opinion.

SAM
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 109s - Set of 6s

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I would have bet just a touch more on the flop and turn. So like:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Button (t1290)
Hero (t985)
BB (t990)
UTG (t940)
UTG+1 (t850)
MP1 (t1915)
MP2 (t915)
MP3 (t1065)
CO (t1050)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t30</font>, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t105) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t75</font>, MP2 calls t75, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t255) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t175</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t850 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls t430 (All-In).

River: (t905) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1945

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If stacks are short, you should C/R here, and if stacks are deep you should lead. Pretty basic NL concept. However, I've found that most villain's will call a half pot bet with overs, making a C/R pretty useless as it's only advantage over leading is that it catches and hopefully pot commits overs on a c-bet.

So I lead for half pot, because I'm thinking that will entice overs to call as I look weak. If called and Villain is aggro and the turn blanks, I'll often check and allow him to bluff, at which point I end the hand. If he catches an obvious scare card I have him.

Anyway, I'm rambling. I bet 50 instead of 75 because I wanted to catch overcards. I think 75 folds em out. Thoughts?
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:18 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: 109s - Set of 6s

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Anyway, I'm rambling. I bet 50 instead of 75 because I wanted to catch overcards. I think 75 folds em out. Thoughts?

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I hate giving a cheap card to two clubs though, and I want to make the pot bigger so that I'm more likely to get my whole stack in by the river.

Another line is betting 100 on the flop and checking the turn.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: 109s - Set of 6s

Against most players at the donk levels I play at, a push RR on the turn will almost certainly be called after they put in a min-RR, so I do that. Looks ok though. I think t50 is fine on the flop.
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