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Old 12-16-2002, 05:57 PM
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Default powerball probabilities

With this Wednesday's jackpot at approx $160.0 mil, Powerball is once again approaching record levels. So it's a good time to brush up on our Powerball probabilities.

The rules of the game: five white balls are selected from a numbered set of 53, and one red ball (the Powerball) is selected from a numbered set of 42.

1. What is the probability of hitting the jackpot, matching all five white balls and the powerball?

2. If 60.0 million tickets are sold for this drawing, what is the probability that there is exactly one winning ticket? Two tickets? Three tickets? Zero tickets?

3. Here is the payoff schedule:
Match the Powerball (PB) only: $3
Match PB and one white ball: $4
Match PB + 2: $7
Match PB + 3: $100
Match PB + 4: $5,000
Match PB + 5: $160.0 Mil (important: jackpot is chopped in the event of multiple winning tickets, use numbers from #2, assume no more than 3 winners)
Match 3 white, no PB: $7
Match 4 white, no PB: $100
Match 5 white, no PB: $100,000.

What is the Expected payout on one ticket?
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Old 12-16-2002, 06:08 PM
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Default answers - don\'t peek! Solutions later.

1. approximately 1/120,526,770

2. zero tickets: approx 0.6079
One winner: approx 0.3026
Two winners: approx 0.0753
Three winners: approx 0.0125
More than 3: approx 0.0017

3. Just under $1.05. Yes, that means a $1 Powerball ticket is actually a good investment if standard deviation means nothing to you.
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Old 12-16-2002, 08:14 PM
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Default No real content, just felt the need to share

My folks play the Maine State lottery iff the EV is positive, but they also factor in the rather significant tax they'd have to pay on their winnings.

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Old 12-17-2002, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: answers - don\'t peek! Solutions later.

So I still have a chance then! LOL Actually isn't lightning striking you a greater chance?

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Old 12-17-2002, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: answers - don\'t peek! Solutions later.

The chance of being killed in a traffic accident on your way to buy a ticket are vastly greater than your chance of winning the jackpot.
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Old 12-17-2002, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: answers - don\'t peek! Solutions later.

Bruce, you are assuming that the buying of a ticket and the traffic accident are independant events.

If you are in a store that sells tickets anyway, then you can reduce that edge to almost zero (unless you are killed in a freak supermarket trolley accident)

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Old 12-17-2002, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: answers - don\'t peek! Solutions later.

Or in the extra time it takes to buy the ticket, you could be shot by the guy robbing the store. Maybe not in England though.
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Old 12-17-2002, 08:28 AM
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Default I get a different payout

I get that the expected payout per ticket for the grand prize alone is $1.04, but when the other prizes are added, the expected payout comes to $1.21.

Using your numbers (which I confirmed to be correct) the grand prize alone would be worth:

160 million*(.6079 + .3026/2 + .0753/3) = 125,488,000

125,488,000/120,526,770 = $1.04

The EV for getting the power ball + n white balls is:

prize*(1/42)*C(5,n)*C(48,5-n)/C(53,5)

The EV for getting just n white balls with no power ball is:

prize*(41/42)*C(5,n)*C(48,n)/C(53,5)

Here are the EVs with the power ball:
<pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr>
prize ev white balls w/power ball
3 0.042620507 0
4 0.032288263 1
7 0.010045237 2
100 0.009358917 3
5000 0.009956294 4
125482281.6 1.041115444 5
</pre><hr>
Here are the EVs without the power ball:
<pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr>
prize ev white balls w/no power ball
7 0.026860091 3
100 0.008164161 4
100000 0.034017339 5

</pre><hr>
Sum of all EVs = 1.214426

As a sanity check, I also included the 3 cases where we lose a dollar, and subtracted a dollar from all the prizes since we don't get that back when we win. This came out to an EV of 21 cents for buying a ticket, which is consistent with the above.
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Old 12-17-2002, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: I get a different payout

We agree on the 17 cents for everything not related to the powerball, so I'll focus on just the jackpot, where I got 87.7 cents vs. your $1.04:

First, a few symbols for easier notation:
P(me)=Probability I hit the jackpot = 1/120526770
P(me')=Probability I don't hit the jackpot = (1-1/120526770)
P(0)=Probability of zero winners = 0.6078
P(0')=Probability that there are more than zero winners = 1-0.6078=0.3921
P(1)=probability of one winner = 0.3026
P(2)=probability of two winners = 0.075319
P(3)=probability of three winners = 0.0125

So, the probability of me being the only winner, given that there are not no winners = P(me)*P(1)/P(0'). Multiply that result by $160.0 mil and you get $0.772

Likewise, the probability of me winning and being one of two = P(me)*P(2)/P(0'). Multiply that result by $80.0 mil, and you get $0.096.

Finally, the probability of me winning and being one of three = P(me)*P(3)/P(0'). Multiply result by 160/3 mil, and you get $0.01.

Sum the three numbers, and you get roughly $0.87.

Your approach seems to work as well, although it's just a digit off. Your starting formula:

"160 million*(.6079 + .3026/2 + .0753/3) = 125,488,000"

Note that this formula pays out $160.0 to the winner when there is NO WINNER, and pays out two winners when there is ONE WINNER, etc. Notice that by shifting these numbers to:
$160 Mil * (0.3026* 0.07532/2* 0.0125/3) = $41,512,589. If you divide this result by P(0') to avoid double-counting the non-win, you get 41.5M/(0.3921) or $105,860,993. This number, divided by the $125,488,000 from your initial result, is proportionate to the difference between our final results of 87 cents/$1.04.

Hope this makes sense. It's hard to write probability formulas in this format!


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Old 12-17-2002, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: I get a different payout

I understand what you did because I almost did it myself. Unfortunately, it isn't correct.

Your approach seems to work as well, although it's just a digit off. Your starting formula:
"160 million*(.6079 + .3026/2 + .0753/3) = 125,488,000"
Note that this formula pays out $160.0 to the winner when there is NO WINNER, and pays out two winners when there is ONE WINNER, etc.


When I win, the probability of there being NO other winner out of the other 59,999,999 tickets is essentially the same as there being no winner out of 60,000,000 tickets or .6079. Similarly, I split the pot when there is ONE other winner which is .3026 of the time that I win, etc.

Here's where you (and almost I) went wrong by subtley misapplying Bayes' theorem:

So, the probability of me being the only winner, given that there are not no winners = P(me)*P(1)/P(0').

P(1)/P(0') is the probability of exactly 1 winner given that there is at least one winner. We don't want that. We want the probability of there being exactly 1 winner given that "ME" won, and that is the same as P(0).

This error reminds me of the joke about how you should always bring a bomb aboard an airplane since then the chance of someone else bringing a bomb is much smaller since the chance of there being 2 bombs is much smaller than the chance of there being just one. This is fallacious for the same reason.
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