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05-21-2005, 04:56 PM
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Ready to move up?
Hey folks, after implementing some of Gigabets tricks I seem to do much better:
#Game No : ***** Hand History for Game ***** NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny: Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, May 21, 13:46:10 EDT 2005 Table Table **** (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 9 Seat 1: mytho_1987 ( $755 ) Seat 2: wmood ( $1775 ) Seat 3: Bobson55 ( $740 ) Seat 5: Looselady111 ( $785 ) Seat 6: Bktuna ( $920 ) Seat 7: hunger_13 ( $375 ) Seat 8: HERO ( $770 ) Seat 9: Swan_Lee ( $760 ) Seat 10: rrojas ( $1120 ) Trny: Level:1 Blinds(10/15) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to HERO [ Th Td ] Bktuna folds. hunger_13 folds. HERO calls [15]. Swan_Lee folds. rrojas raises [50]. mytho_1987 folds. wmood folds. Bobson55 folds. Looselady111 folds. HERO calls [35]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Qd, Qh ] HERO checks. rrojas bets [50]. HERO calls [50]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ] HERO bets [175]. rrojas calls [175]. ** Dealing River ** [ 2c ] HERO is all-In [495] rrojas will be using his time bank for this hand. HERO: AK ? rrojas: yup HERO: ok rrojas folds. HERO does not show cards. HERO wins 1070 chips No seriously are the 55s much harder than the 33s? It seems I could play much better if I just had more starting chips. In the 33s I achieved an ROI of 0.55% over 132 tournaments. Sure insufficient sample size but it is worth to stay at a level that can be beat without any problems for an eternity just to determine ones exact win rate? 
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#4
05-21-2005, 06:34 PM
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Re: Ready to move up?
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[ QUOTE ] It's plays like these that give u a 0.55% ROI. [/ QUOTE ] No thats rather a product of AA losing against 22 and stuff... [/ QUOTE ] So you've never won a showdown you weren't favored to? Take all the times you won as an underdog out too, if you don't want to count your bad beats.
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#6
05-21-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: Ready to move up?
98% of Party players are not laying down AK there.
96% of Party players are not laying down Kx there. 83% of Party players are not laying down Jx there. Bluffing unbluffable players = bad. You need a specific read on your opponent to be able to do something like this profitably.
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#7
05-21-2005, 06:58 PM
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Re: Ready to move up?
"So you've never won a showdown you weren't favored to?
Take all the times you won as an underdog out too, if you don't want to count your bad beats. " Of course sometimes I win as an underdog too. Most of the time it's when blind stealing and getting caught, or once in hundred games preflop all-in with KK against AA. I don't necessarily complain because I think Sklansky already stated, that good players will get sucked out more often than bad players, because they get there money in with the best of it most of the times. However my 33 results have been skewed, here 14 Preflop-Allins with AA: AA against JJ: lost AA against KJo: lost AA against JJ: won AA against J5o: lost AA against J6o: won AA against 88: lost AA against KJs: lost AA against Q6s: won AA against JJ : lost AA against KK: won AA against K8s: won AA against 22: lost AA against 99: won AA against K9o: lost Winrate: 42.85%, for AA not very good
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#8
05-21-2005, 07:03 PM
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Re: Ready to move up?
It's simply fundamentally wrong to look at your winrate and say "well I had bad beats so it's not really accurate". It's just wrong. And nothing you can say can change the fact that bad beats will happen and you can't say your winrate is lower than you deserve because your AA got cracked a couple times.
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#9
05-21-2005, 07:06 PM
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Re: Ready to move up?
yikes!! the good news is that u can easily fix your play, just dont bluff on level1,2,3 never ever again.
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#10
05-21-2005, 07:10 PM
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Re: Ready to move up?
"It's simply fundamentally wrong to look at your winrate and say "well I had bad beats so it's not really accurate". It's just wrong."
Why not? I'm not trying to argue here, I just dont understand it. If AA is supposed to win 70% or 80% of the time and I get only 42% and every time I lose it costs me a whole Buyin isn't it relatively safe to assume that I would have a higher ROI if AA did in fact win 70% of the time? However one cant change the way the cards fall, thats true.
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