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Old 05-19-2005, 12:04 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

hard converter is'nt working well::

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG (t750)
UTG+1 (t750)
UTG+2 (t800)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t975)
CO (t800)
Button (t790)
SB (t785)
BB (t750)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Flop: (t22.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>

Turn: (t22.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>

River: (t22.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>

Final Pot:

#Game No : 2071037978
***** Hand History for Game 2071037978 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:12335242 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, May 19, 00:00:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 11740 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: MAUL9594 ( $800 )
Seat 1: Blackdan13 ( $750 )
Seat 9: mfc0812 ( $785 )
Seat 2: Pralinka ( $750 )
Seat 5: Grumpyaz ( $800 )
Seat 3: EASYONPAPA ( $800 )
Seat 10: xtremeguy77 ( $750 )
Seat 7: mopper1977 ( $800 )
Seat 8: brazosrower ( $790 )
Seat 6: KCASTI ( $975 )
Trny:12335242 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MAUL9594 [ Kc Kh ]
MAUL9594 raises [55].
KCASTI calls [55].
mopper1977 raises [400].
MAUL9594 is all-In [745]
mopper1977 is all-In [400]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Jh, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
mopper1977 wins 1680 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks.
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:07 AM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

Hero fixes hand?
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

I forget the exact number, but in Harrington on Hold'em he says that something like 5-10% of the time you have kings, someone will have aces when you have kings. But more often they'll have AK, queens or jacks. In the long run you are better off pushing.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

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I forget the exact number, but in Harrington on Hold'em he says that something like 5-10% of the time you have kings, someone will have aces when you have kings. But more often they'll have AK, queens or jacks. In the long run you are better off pushing.

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I have no idea if DH's numbers are right or not but his quote was 1 in 24 at a full table.

At any 8000 chip SnG, I would have to have a 100% lock read that a player could *only* reraise me with AA before I lay down KK pre-flop.
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Old 05-19-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

The action screams AA, but KK makes me hard of hearing.

I could fold QQ here though.
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Old 05-19-2005, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

Easy push. I don't even think it smells like AA.
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Old 05-19-2005, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

yeah, I think its an easy push too, I just hate running into aces so early in the tourney [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-19-2005, 03:52 AM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

I don't think this action would make me fold KK preflop.

The only time I can remember folding KK preflop was after an 8vpip limped utg in level 1, a couple limps and I raised KK, sb Pushed and the 8VPIP coldcalled the push.
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Old 05-19-2005, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

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I just hate running into aces so early in the tourney

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But that's why you HAVE to call! Think about how little time you've invested [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I agree with HoH's line of reasoning. Personally I'd be more afraid if you had raised more (like 70-80, which is what I'd typically bet from UTG w/ KK) and got minraised by a late position player. People love minraising AA. Hell, I love minraising AA. And I don't know about $33s, but at an $11 I push QQ too and take my coinflip against AK. Unless you have a great read, QQ+ hands always feel like "if you got me beat, you got me beat" because the times you'll get called by schlock far outweight the monsters.

And if someone could help, what does vpip mean? It's the only acronym I can't figure out. It sounds like it has something to do with PokerTracker?
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Old 05-19-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 KK facing a re-raise

vpip is volunatarily put $ in pot. general stat term, it happens to be included in PT
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