Odds of pair improving after flop to two-pair or trips?

[Popinjay]

What are the odds from the flop to the turn of one pair improving into two-pair or trips?

Say I have T8 and the flop comes AT5. What are the odds I will improve on the turn?

[rolandriver]

5/47 or 10.64%
5 outs=3 8's,2 10's
47 cards remaining= 52cards-2 in ur hand-3 on the flop

[JSHamm]

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What are the odds from the flop to the turn of one pair improving into two-pair or trips?

Say I have T8 and the flop comes AT5. What are the odds I will improve on the turn?

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Odds of making Trips:
2 Tens left
2/47 = 4.3% or 22:1

Odds of making Two Pair:
3 8's, 3 A's, 3 5's
9/47 = 19.1% or 4.24:1

Odds of either
11/47 = 23.4% or 3.27:1

[zerosum]

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What are the odds from the flop to the turn of one pair improving into two-pair or trips?


Say I have T8 and the flop comes AT5. What are the odds I will improve on the turn?

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Odds of making Trips:
2 Tens left
2/47 = 4.3% or 22:1

Odds of making Two Pair:
3 8's, 3 A's, 3 5's
9/47 = 19.1% or 4.24:1

Odds of either
11/47 = 23.4% or 3.27:1

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Perhaps it's just me. I find it hard to think of pairing the A or the 5 on the turn as improving my hand relative to my opponents, given that we would share the board pair. Should we not discount the A and the 5 on the turn? And if so, by how much?

[JSHamm]

True, I didn't answer the question as it may relate to other opponents, only to the % of making a better hand than it was on the flop