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Old 09-25-2004, 05:02 PM
realbad101 realbad101 is offline
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Default All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

This was the 1st hand of this 10+1 party sng. I ended up going all in with top set (on the flop). Was this a good push, or should I have tried to keep the pot smaller?

Also, how scary is the queen on the turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
Hero (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t15, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t70</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls t55, MP2 calls t55.

Flop: (t220) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, BB calls t300.

Turn: (t1020) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t330 (All-In)</font>,
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Old 09-25-2004, 05:11 PM
wjmooner wjmooner is offline
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

There are the obvious straight possibilities on this board, but getting all the money in with top set is almost never a bad thing. If he has AK, K9, or 89 then you still have a chance to fill up.

In a SnG you should always be looking to play a big pot with a set.

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Old 09-25-2004, 05:11 PM
MrFeelNothin MrFeelNothin is offline
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

dont ask questions you know the answer to.
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Old 09-25-2004, 06:13 PM
realbad101 realbad101 is offline
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

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dont ask questions you know the answer to.

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While insightful and concise, how about the play?

Since he called the C/R on the flop, I think I have him beat. At this point, I put him on a big hand either an overpair or a smaller set. I didn't think he'd call (even from BB) with 89 my ~4.5x BB raise. I can't see him calling my C/R with AK either. The Q on the turn scares me not because of the straight, but because maybe he makes a better set. Also on the turn, I figuire I am pot commited and if he's got the straight, at least i have 20% chance of outdrawing.
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Old 09-25-2004, 07:32 PM
rjb03 rjb03 is offline
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

How is putting in all your money with a good set with a pretty harmless board (after the turn) after your preflop raise loose aggressive?
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Old 09-25-2004, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

This is a Party Poker $10+1. You flopped a set and got just what you wanted - a successful check raise. Why not push right here?

My name is codewarrior, and I approved this post.
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Old 09-25-2004, 08:00 PM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

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How is putting in all your money with a good set with a pretty harmless board (after the turn) after your preflop raise loose aggressive?

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The board isn't that harmless.

However, I think it's the right play.
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Old 09-25-2004, 08:30 PM
rjb03 rjb03 is offline
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

I didn't mean the board was that harmless. I meant that with the action a T9 and AK are the least likely straight draws to call. However, someone may call with AK if they believe they have overcards.
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Old 09-25-2004, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

All the more reason to push on the flop. No need to be clever here.
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Old 09-25-2004, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: All in 1st hand - Am I a LAG?

FWIW - After I moved in on the turn, BB folds for 330 into a 1020 + 330 pot. I think the queen scared him more than me.

The boost in chips kept me healthy for a while. My main concern here was whether this hand was good enough to violate the don't get involved with a big pot early mandate. Looking back, I agree that a check raise all in on the flop takes the guesswork out of this and is the safer play.
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