Battle of the blinds, flop a set on single-suited board - $33

[durron597]

You played this hand perfectly, unless you think he pays you off on the river with just a jack.

[The Venetian]

I see your reasoning and I've been there. That doesn't make it right.

You've got position and, likely, a better, but vulnerable hand. Isn't this when you normally raise?

By calling, you're either slowplaying (which you say you're not) or you're scared of the heart falling and ruining your hand. Heck, maybe a heart would scare him more than you.

What part of the hand exactly did you want help on?

[EverettKings]

Why not make a donkey little 100-150 chip value bet on the river?

If he has you beat with diamonds, he's an idiot for not getting his money in sooner. Good for him. If he's got an 8, the way you played the hand, there's a good chance that he just calls the river. If he has a worse hand, he may well fold to a push, but if you stick 100 chips out there? Surely Jx will look you up at that point. Hell maybe he'll get overconfident and think his J7 is good and push over the top of that.

The only reason to check behind is if you really think you're beat. I don't have reason to believe that yet.

Kings

[ZeroPointMachine]

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You played this hand perfectly, unless you think he pays you off on the river with just a jack.

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I agree.

Every single time I see a suited board I take a deep breath and say to myself "don't go broke"

It's easy to convince yourself that he doesn't have the flush or he is drawing to the Ace.

I think keeping the pot small on the flop is a play that not many players make in this situation, but building a pot now quickly leads to the "well if he's got it (or gets it) maybe I'll hit my boat....too many chips in the pot...

[mlagoo]

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Why not make a donkey little 100-150 chip value bet on the river?

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The only reason to check behind is if you really think you're beat. I don't have reason to believe that yet.

Kings

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I don't think this is true. The reason to check behind is with three to a flush and one-card straight possibility on the board, you can't really stand a C/R allin here. Or, at least, you might be able to simply because of the amount of chips in the pot, but it would be an absolute crying call.

Instead of risking going broke to a better hand here, you can check it down and still take down a decent sized pot, but not let a better hand break you.

[45suited]

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Every single time I see a suited board I take a deep breath and say to myself "don't go broke"

It's easy to convince yourself that he doesn't have the flush or he is drawing to the Ace.

I think keeping the pot small on the flop is a play that not many players make in this situation, but building a pot now quickly leads to the "well if he's got it (or gets it) maybe I'll hit my boat....too many chips in the pot...

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I don't really think the OP played the hand the way he did because he had a tremendous fear of a made flush on the flop. He kept the pot small because their were two big draws on the board and was waiting to raise a safe turn. If the turn was 2c and the villain pushed, I can almost guarantee you that the OP would have called. I know that I would have.

If I have a set, I'm never going to give a heads up opponent credit for a flopped flush here. On a safe turn, I'm putting a big bet in.

[Jay36489]

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Looks to me like we're saying the same thing...I said I checked behind on the river because he could easily have J8, A8, or basically 8x with a diamond. Or he could be slowplaying a flush.

Any hands I can beat will fold to my all-in. I only get called by a better hand, so there's no point in betting, cause I can never win extra chips, and can only bust.

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No, I think a Jack or two pair here does pay you off depending on your read. Hes got 1000 left if he calls your all in. If you had put him all in I think hes less likely to pay it off.

[EverettKings]

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I don't think this is true. The reason to check behind is with three to a flush and one-card straight possibility on the board, you can't really stand a C/R allin here. Or, at least, you might be able to simply because of the amount of chips in the pot, but it would be an absolute crying call.

Instead of risking going broke to a better hand here, you can check it down and still take down a decent sized pot, but not let a better hand break yo

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My main point is that his check shows a lot more weakness than everyone seems to think. Did he really call the big turn raise with just an 8 on a 3 flush board? OK a few hands fit, like Ad8x, or J8, but I think much more often you're going to see hands like QT, Ad9x, etc.

ALSO if he did hit his eight, why wouldn't he lead it out? Surely he's got to expect you to check behind on that monstrous board.

I just can hardly see a hand he'd play this way that you're losing to. If I throw 100 chips out there he'll make his crying call with a weak made hand, or get stupid and think he can get me off the hand with a push for 350 on his whiffed Ad. If this were a higher buyin I could expect more trickery, but at a 33 I'm gonna squeeze every drop of value I can out of this.

Kings

[schwza]

i raise pre-flop. you can often pick up a small pot that way.

i raise the flop. Jx and a naked big diamond will get all in with you on that flop.

the river is an interesting one. i think in the moment i'd have bet it, but i like a check behind. there aren't too many hands that pay you off here, and most hands that beat you will check to you, given the action. if the 7 was a 6 instead, i'd probably bet.

[wizard]

I like the way that it was played post flop but I think a bet on the river is very close. I don't think that it has to be an all in though and a smaller bet may induce a JX call or missed draw bluff raise.

Before the flop I think that you have a hand that is far superior to many of the hands that SB would limp with and you should make it 100 to go. Picking up the 30 would be fine and you may have an easier time of it postflop.