unusual bad beat. Thought it was interesting

rickr · #1 05-19-2005, 07:23 AM

Now everyone talks about the quality of play as you progress. I don't believe it. I think the fish (myself included) run the gamot. It's just a bankroll issue. Not quality of play. Now I really felt like there was a good chance I was beat here, so you can flame me all you want for not raising more preflop, or that I should have laid this down. But I bet out knowing I was either way ahead or way behind. What was really interesting was what he had.

Very first hand.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t70, 2 folds, MP2 calls t70, 4 folds, BB calls t55.

Flop: (t220) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t300, MP2 folds, BB raises to t730 (All-In), Hero calls t430 (All-In).

Turn: (t1680) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t1680) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t1680

Take a guess. I'll make it alittle easier for you and tell you "he had no spade". lol

Later,
Rick

olddominion · #2 05-19-2005, 07:32 AM

89.

This doesnt seem all that interesting.

raptor517 · #3 05-19-2005, 07:36 AM

i guarantee u will get ZERO sympathy from ANYONE on this forum. period. you bet way too much on the flop. thats YOUR mistake. this is a CHECKABLE flop. feel free to even check fold. your hand is very weak right now. interesting as to what he had? 56 with the 5 or spades and nutted up. WHO CARES. you make money off of bad people. get used to it. when you drop 20+ buyins IN A ROW, then you are allowed to make a bad beat post. holla

rickr · #4 05-19-2005, 07:40 AM

Raptor. Wasn't looking for sympathy. When I put my money in I really didn't think it would be a true "bad beat". I expected to get beat by the flush or at least be up against a good draw. The guy flipped over TJ no spades. Just thought that was comical. No need to get your panties in a wad.

Later,
Rick

raptor517 · #5 05-19-2005, 07:43 AM

lol, panties in a wad? you come to the wrong forum for sympathy. im not berating you. im telling you that if you get YOUR panties in a wad over something like THIS, you have a LOT to learn about poker. holla

Unarmed · #6 05-19-2005, 08:47 AM

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this is a CHECKABLE flop.

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Really? I probably bet 150 and drop to a push. Checking seems terribly weak. Enlighten me? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

viennagreen · #7 05-19-2005, 11:37 AM

i think that i would probably do the same... a flat call would give me pause, but on the turn, i'd probably continue on betting figuring it was a 4-to-the-flush draw (unless a spade turned up).

that's just me though.

Unarmed · #8 05-19-2005, 11:54 AM

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i think that i would probably do the same... a flat call would give me pause, but on the turn, i'd probably continue on betting figuring it was a 4-to-the-flush draw (unless a spade turned up).

that's just me though.

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FWIW I wouldn't bet the turn if called.
There's no need to protect against draws because I'm not even sure my hand is good at that point. Then again, I don't raise as much PF so I'm working with a much smaller pot at that point.

viennagreen · #9 05-19-2005, 12:23 PM

that's the main problem-- not raising more preflop... it's bad to not place a significant preflop raise at the 800 chip SNGs first round with a premium hand... people will still usually call--- none of the idiots have been weeded out yet

the small preflop raise--- you're right... betting again on the turn would probably be foolish after a flat call...

gumpzilla · #10 05-19-2005, 11:26 AM

People get so upset by bad beat posts here, yet they always seem to draw a fair number of responses. I guess people just need to show their superior poker Zen every now and then.

Doesn't it occur to people that if you don't like bad beat posts - and this one even does you the courtesy of announcing that it is a bad beat post - the best way to discourage them is not to respond?