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Old 06-05-2005, 10:56 AM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

UB. 1,500 beautiful chips, slow blinds (you can turbo if you prefer that sort of thing) and only a 50¢ rake.
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:00 AM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

That is why you shouldn't have played the 55s before.
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

Sorry it didn't work out for you. And good job posting about it -- most people crow about their good results and remain silent about their not-so-good ones.

Have you considered the bonus whoring route? When I was playing limit, I had to cash out my entire BR except for about $300. I couldn't stomach grinding out the .5/1 games, so I bonus whored and casino whored. I turned it into $1300 in about a month.
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

1) Try some bonus whoring. too bad Pstars's most recent reload bonus just expired on June 2.

2) I play UB and Stars. i like UB more since I can multitable w/o overlap on my 1024x768 laptop resolution using their miniview (the site only allows 3 SNGs at a time though - you can get a fourth table in IF you have 3 SNGs going and then load up a MTT, but once one of the SNGs ends, you can't load up another if you have 3 games, thw MTT and 2 SNGs goin - so odd).

I dont play turbo's very often, but they last around 45-50 min.

The reason I say UB and not Pstars, aside from the multitabling fact, is that Pstars has 9 players and the the fact that you have a technical 33% chance to ITM rather than 30% doesn't make up for the reduced payouts IMHO.

Pstars does let you play at least 4 tables at once, and I recall someone saying that their max is at least 8-10 tables and maybe higher, so if you 4 table, you might want to try Stars.

good luck.
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:20 AM
KingDan KingDan is offline
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

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As someone once posted here "NL 25 beats itself."

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That was me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Do you have a neteller? Some bonus whoring might not be a bad way to build it up. Or you can try risk free Blackjack whoring (some sites you play with their money and if you lose it just cash out)
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:24 AM
Big Limpin' Big Limpin' is offline
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

stay at party, stay at 11s. start one tabling. Learn & improve. Please dont flippishly discard this, like "i know what im doing, i just keep losing races". Yeah you went cold, but your best chance of avoiding this reoccuring is to get better. I know thats semi-evasive, but simply dropping a BI level while still quadding isnt going going to fix anything. You are going to have to find 1 leak per day, and plug it. In a week or two later, you'll be an improved poker player, even if your roll isnt much bigger.

*As i re-read what i wrote, it sounds kinda condescending, which i dont mean. I'm not senistive enough to go back and change the grammer to sound all nicey-nicey, suffice it to say,i liek yer style ven, and i wish you well. Please thake this as advice/suggestion not as a lecture.

good luck - BL'
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

Gambler's anon has some great programs... less than $5 too!
~Justin
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:49 AM
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stay at party, stay at 11s. start one tabling. Learn & improve. Please dont flippishly discard this, like "i know what im doing, i just keep losing races". Yeah you went cold, but your best chance of avoiding this reoccuring is to get better. I know thats semi-evasive, but simply dropping a BI level while still quadding isnt going going to fix anything. You are going to have to find 1 leak per day, and plug it. In a week or two later, you'll be an improved poker player, even if your roll isnt much bigger.

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I totally agree with this advice. I started playing SNGs and lurking on this site about a year ago. I started single tabling on the 5s even in spite of the 20% rake. My thinking was that I wanted to learn and improve and if I made money, that was a bonus. Started with a $50 buy in on PP. Had to re-buy on time for another $50. Continued to study. I didn't have pokertracker or anything fancy. But I kept an organized record of each game I played in a 3 ring binder. I recorded my results after each game and my thoughts about most of the games - key hands, possible mistakes, etc.

I probably stayed on the 5s for too long, but I wanted to "earn" my way up and be conservative. Once my account reached $500, I moved up to the 10s and did went through the same process. I didn't find the 10s any more difficult than the 5s - easier, in fact, because of the lower rake percentage wise.

After a prolonged period of beating the 10s single tabling, I added another table. I didn't go straight from one table to four tables. Now I three-table the 10s and take an occassional shot in the 20s. If I go through a bad stretch, I realize that it could just be variance, but I also carefully look at my games to see if I've done anything wrong. If I feel that I have made too many mistakes, I bear down and single table for a few games. I still take notes after games. If you do this, you can sometimes find a pattern in your mistakes.

I think that some people here are too impatient when it comes to moving up. I have a very nice ROI but I am not going to rush moving up to the 33s. Maybe this is too conservative, but I want to get 1000 games in at the 22s and keep my same ROI. I am in this for the long haul and the bonus is that I am making money while learning a game I love to play. Take your time, and stick to the 11s.

I really don't think it's possible to go through and extended losing stretch on the 11s if all you did was play tight early, don't get too fancy, maintain a decent stack so that you have FE, and then play move-in poker at or near the bubble. This is worst case scenario for when you are very card poor during the early going. Just playing like this alone will make you a winning player at the 11s.

I've read enough of V's posts to know that there is no reason for him to give up on PP. Hang in there and be patient!
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:58 AM
Big Limpin' Big Limpin' is offline
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I am quite confident that, if you continue this work ethic / conservatism, you will have the ability to make a living from this game in the forseeable future.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: my party adventure is over( question for 5ers)

I cant single-table!, Im 16,single-tabling doesnt mean playing better it just means looking at porn/sportsites while playing poker...anyway those party mfckers closed my account and I dont have my money on neteller(grr..never follow microbet advice)I have a negative feeling about this,lol( i seriously loughed out loud when i wrote the last sentence..im kinda weird u know)

Big Limpin in previous post I have mentioned how horribly Im playing lately, but still not horribly enough to go like 2 out of 18 ITM.
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