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Old 08-17-2005, 10:27 PM
pdxjayhawk pdxjayhawk is offline
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Default 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t770)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t785)
MP2 (t800)
Hero (t785)
CO (t800)
Button (t875)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t70</font>, <font color="#666666">UTG+1 raises all in[/i]</font>.

Hero decides to do...what?

Final Pot: t92.50
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

ugh.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

Is this a bad beat post??? Call.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:32 PM
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Calls as quickly as possible.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

my estimate is 1/5 times you are up against AA and 4/5 times you are on your way to doubling or tripling up.
I believe, there is a wide consensus on this forum that you don't fold KK preflop without a very strong read and much worse action than this hand.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

Well, I don't like calling an all-in with KK. It's only the second best starting hand. I think you should fold and wait for a better spot.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

Buyin?

If he has half a brain he might be doing this with QQ or AK. If he's a complete idiot, he might be doing this with hands as bad as 55 or A3s (I've seen it before). I can't see a reason to assume he has aces, and if he doesn't you'll probably be heads-up if you call even at most low buyins. Call.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:35 PM
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Easy call for me. With AA (the only hand you are worried about), the raiser should want to extract a little more value than the measly 95 chips in front of him (what buy in is this again?). The all in raise is an interesting play, but KK is easily good enough to take this one down.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

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Well, I don't like calling an all-in with KK. It's only the second best starting hand. I think you should fold and wait for a better spot.

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good point. you really don't want to be calling an allin without aces. even if he has AK, he could catch an ace to beat me, and i don't want to put myself in a situation where someone could catch a three outer to win.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: 2nd hand KK with all-in in front?

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Well, I don't like calling an all-in with KK. It's only the second best starting hand. I think you should fold and wait for a better spot.

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good point. you really don't want to be calling an allin without aces. even if he has AK, he could catch an ace to beat me, and i don't want to put myself in a situation where someone could catch a three outer to win.

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He might even have KJ not suited.

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