Early bet/3bet with 88 on the flop

durron597 · #1 07-20-2005, 08:32 PM

Stars $15+$1 Turbo. Very early. I don't want to invest a lot of chips without seeing if my 88 is an overpair or a set so I just complete preflop (though of course I always end up doing so). Did I get too aggressive here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t1470)
BB (t1580)
UTG (t1390)
MP1 (t1830)
MP2 (t3500)
CO (t1630)
Button (t2100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 calls t30, CO calls t30, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t120, BB folds, MP2 folds, CO raises to t300, Hero raises to t1440, CO calls t1140.

Turn: (t3000) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t3000) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t3000

durron597 · #2 07-20-2005, 08:40 PM

Bump to get this thread above the non-strategy threads.

11t · #3 07-20-2005, 09:03 PM

I think this is somewhat suicidal readless.

durron597 · #4 07-20-2005, 09:08 PM

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Even in a $16? I'm gonna get called by flush draws, TPanyK... and I really don't want to give a free turn. This is definitely a fold/3 bet situation.

bigt439 · #5 07-20-2005, 10:05 PM

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Even in a $16? I'm gonna get called by flush draws, TPanyK... and I really don't want to give a free turn. This is definitely a fold/3 bet situation.

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Or a check raise on the flop to avoid this situation?

durron597 · #6 07-20-2005, 10:15 PM

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Or a check raise on the flop to avoid this situation?

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A check raise is a LOT More likely than a bet/3 bet to get people to fold... and I really don't want to call a push.

nate_king1 · #7 07-20-2005, 10:24 PM

I would have probably done the same thing.

Moonsugar · #8 07-20-2005, 10:39 PM

What hands are going to fold to a c/r and not fold in this line?

What hands would push here that you would not like to call but will call your push?

What people/hands are going to fold to your flop bet but will bluff bet after you check?

durron597 · #9 07-20-2005, 10:43 PM

The difference is that I'm putting them to the test not the other way around.

45suited · #10 07-20-2005, 10:51 PM

I don't hate it but I'm less of a fan because of the fact that it is an unraised pot with low blinds. However, the only hands that I could see him having that you should fear is an overpair (unlikely) or a set. Possibly a suited connector such as ThJh.

It's just generally not my style to make huge pots early when I limp and I have something relatively weak like a low overpair. But I don't hate your play... You are just much more aggresive than I am early in SNGs.