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#21
08-12-2005, 02:56 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved) *DELE
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Post deleted by wacki [/ QUOTE ] TOO LATE. PAY ME! [/ QUOTE ] stop being a dumbass, you know he isnt gonna pay when he types "you are ignoring this user" or clarifies that he's not paying for a certain reason. you even quoted his post in your other reply, removing any real claim you had to getting paid. catch him for real, sherlock. also the noob he replies to doesn't get the $, the person who catches him replying to the noob gets the $. so even if you bust him you're gonna make someone else some $. [/ QUOTE ] Welcome to yesterday 
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08-12-2005, 03:35 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved)
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What's his net impact? Is the loss of the person's own productivity versus a less-than-perfect alternative enough to offset his negative impact on the productivity of others through his poor example? [/ QUOTE ] At work the empoyee is perfect. For example: Athlete: pretend the worlds best tennis player turned out to be tubgirl. Employee: In accounting/finance and all he has to do is crunch numbers. He does a perfect job but happens to drive to Canada to smoke weed and bang an escort every weekend. He's not breaking the laws, and he crunches numbers perfectly and faster than anyone else. Coworkers complain all the time but they love his work. Many want him fired or to change his ways. Mathematician: Worlds greatest but happens to have tattoo's and piercings all over his body. Despite this he is an amazing teacher and kids love him and learn more from him than any other. He goes to raves and smokes opium in Amsterdamn. The trustees are happy because research is being done at an amazing pace. The parents are furious and want litigation but they have no case. Should Oxford fire him?
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#23
08-12-2005, 03:51 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved)
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[ QUOTE ] What's his net impact? Is the loss of the person's own productivity versus a less-than-perfect alternative enough to offset his negative impact on the productivity of others through his poor example? [/ QUOTE ] At work the empoyee is perfect. For example: Athlete: pretend the worlds best tennis player turned out to be tubgirl. Employee: In accounting/finance and all he has to do is crunch numbers. He does a perfect job but happens to drive to Canada to smoke weed and bang an escort every weekend. He's not breaking the laws, and he crunches numbers perfectly and faster than anyone else. Coworkers complain all the time but they love his work. Many want him fired or to change his ways. Mathematician: Worlds greatest but happens to have tattoo's and piercings all over his body. Despite this he is an amazing teacher and kids love him and learn more from him than any other. He goes to raves and smokes opium in Amsterdamn. The trustees are happy because research is being done at an amazing pace. The parents are furious and want litigation but they have no case. Should Oxford fire him? [/ QUOTE ] I understand that. But I assume that the negative aspects of his personality have some kind of impact on the company. Assume, it influences his co-workers to do their jobs less than optimally for some reason. Say they spend more time aropund the water cooler talking about him. Ir it has a negative impact on the company's credibility, which costs the company money. There must be some negative impact. I think your answer depends on the net impact of the difference in profitability between his optimal performance and the next best options suboptimal performance netted against whatever negative impacts there may be.
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08-12-2005, 05:58 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved)
Well I think your private life is your business and your business only. If you are ignorant enough to bring it to work then you should suffer the consequences. Smoking weed or being a drunk would not be known in the work place unless you bring it up.
I would not want an employee who comes to work and talk about what a looser they are outside of work. I think you should behave yourself as an adult at work and outside of work.
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08-12-2005, 07:23 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved)
Does it involve breaking the law on a level that the public might hear about via the local media, but not severe enough that you do time? I.E. soliciting a prostitute. If so, in many situations, they should probably be fired.
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08-12-2005, 07:56 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved)
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Say a person is perfect at his job but isn't a good example: [/ QUOTE ] How can you be perfect at your job and not be a good example?
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08-12-2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: Positions of authority and being a \"good example\" (improved)
See my math teacher example. Stuff like that happens all the time. Many Dem's argue Clinton was the perfect president but he is far from a good example for family values. Seriously, this concept shouldn't be that hard to get.
Another thing... when I posted my tiny violin picture in response to BigSteve, a poster got upset because a moderator of 2+2 shouldn't be able to do that in her opinion. It is that kind of mentality I'm talking about. FYI: this is not a campaign for me to become OOT mod. I'm very happy with the way things are.
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