All-in early with good, but not great, hand

dfscott · #1 03-19-2005, 07:05 PM

Is this a chance worth taking?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

Button (t1495)
SB (t590)
Hero (t1220)
UTG (t1065)
MP1 (t2370)
MP2 (t810)
CO (t450)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, 1 fold, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t150) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t100, MP1 calls t100, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: (t350) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t200, MP1 raises to t800, Hero raises to t1090 (All-in), MP1 calls t290.

SNOWBALL138 · #2 03-19-2005, 10:57 PM

Your flop bet showed strength b/c of the amount of players in there. His call is implausible with TT, but makes sense with a smaller 2 pair , or a set. AK is unlikely, but I wouldn't be surprised to see KQ here.
There's a small chance he has AA also. Again, this is a nice flop to slowplay b/c it doesn't have any obvious draws on it.

I'd say you are in a good but not GREAT spot. In STTs, I tend to treat good and great spots pretty similarly just because the stacks are so shallow and the blinds go up so fast. You don't get too many shots.

citanul · #3 03-19-2005, 11:08 PM

sounds like either your hand is good or he has KT. man these free hands are tricky sometimes.

citanul

ilya · #4 03-19-2005, 11:13 PM

You're cooked when you get raised on the turn, I think. Muck. Once you're called on the flop I think you're better off with a check-call line. Or maybe check the turn, bet the river if he checks behind.

Voltron87 · #5 03-19-2005, 11:19 PM

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You're cooked when you get raised on the turn, I think. Muck. Once you're called on the flop I think you're better off with a check-call line.

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When an opponent flat calls your 2/3 pot bet you go into passive mode?

At the 11s I fail to see a point I could get away from this hand. If I am playing against a TAG who understands how many draws just got to being real draws when the Td shows up I might be able to fold. Otherwise I go broke or 2x up.

ilya · #6 03-19-2005, 11:32 PM

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You're cooked when you get raised on the turn, I think. Muck. Once you're called on the flop I think you're better off with a check-call line.

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When an opponent flat calls your 2/3 pot bet you go into passive mode?

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Not always, of course, but in this situation, yes. I don't feel comfortable playing the hand very agressively out of position after flop action that doesn't make me especially sure of being ahead. $11 players will almost always just call with a set on that flop, but will often raise with a King. I'm less worried about giving a free card to a 3-out hand than about walking into an ugly turn raise.

Voltron87 · #7 03-19-2005, 11:43 PM

Well I'm not happy about the action, it does look like a crappy slowplay. But you will also be ahead much of the time here. As for before the villain's all in, I think it was played ok.

curtains · #8 03-20-2005, 01:26 AM

Yes, too likely you are ahead IMO.

curtains · #9 03-20-2005, 01:28 AM

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You're cooked when you get raised on the turn, I think. Muck. Once you're called on the flop I think you're better off with a check-call line. Or maybe check the turn, bet the river if he checks behind.

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I have to say I disagree. You have an absolute monster on the flop, and will be ahead of the caller a very very large % of the time in a lower (50 or under) buyin sit and go. Checking the turn with the intention of calling would be way too passive.