30-60 9-6 suited hand

[Lawrence Ng]

All fold to me in the cutoff and I raise with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Button folds, SB folds, BB calls. BB is very loose and plays way way to many hands and bets too much with anything post flop.

Now, before you go on reading and making any comments, I don't need a twoplustwo lecture on stealing with 9-6 suited. I would like you to comment on my river play and that's it.

Flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB checks, I decide to check because I know I'm going to get called down with Ace high, any pair, and my attempt to steal so far has failed so even though I flopped an open ender and a backdoor straight draw. I figure there is no point wasting anymore money unless I hit and I'm a dog on this flop for sure if BB called me.

Turn is a beautiful 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] giving me the nut straight.

BB bets, I raise, BB re-raise, I 4 bet, BB 5 bet, I 6 bet.

Anyways this goes on till I make it 10 bets or something and finally he just calls.

River pairs the King [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. BB checks. Do I check or bet?

[DcifrThs]

bet.

he's got 6-4 and you can fold to the c-r.

-Barron

[SpaceAce]

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bet.

he's got 6-4 and you can fold to the c-r.

-Barron

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You're folding the nut straight for one bet on the river against a player who "is very loose and plays way way to many hands and bets too much with anything post flop"? No way, no how. I bet and call a raise. I've never played above $15/$30 but there is no way I can see folding this to the villain described here.

SpaceAce

[DcifrThs]

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bet.

he's got 6-4 and you can fold to the c-r.

-Barron

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You're folding the nut straight for one bet on the river against a player who "is very loose and plays way way to many hands and bets too much with anything post flop"? No way, no how. I bet and call a raise. I've never played above $15/$30 but there is no way I can see folding this to the villain described here.

SpaceAce

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uh, he went TEN BETS on the turn...he has the same straight, a lower straight or a set...period...the board paired, he expects you to call after he raises, therefore he has a boat.

since he'll likely just call i think he has 64.

-Barron

[SpaceAce]

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bet.

he's got 6-4 and you can fold to the c-r.

-Barron

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You're folding the nut straight for one bet on the river against a player who "is very loose and plays way way to many hands and bets too much with anything post flop"? No way, no how. I bet and call a raise. I've never played above $15/$30 but there is no way I can see folding this to the villain described here.

SpaceAce

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uh, he went TEN BETS on the turn...he has the same straight, a lower straight or a set...period...the board paired, he expects you to call after he raises, therefore he has a boat.

since he'll likely just call i think he has 64.

-Barron

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Uh, he went TEN BETS on the turn which means there is way too much money in there to fold against a player who "is very loose and plays way way to many hands and bets too much with anything post flop". You're telling me this guy doesn't have less than a boat 4% of the time if he raises the river? I am not questioning your logic, I am questioning the idea that you can fold the river at 25:1. I think that fold would be absurd.

SpaceAce

[DcifrThs]

see egg on face post later on down the string.

gotta call...but even moreso, gotta bet.

-Barron

[ike]

This is 20+ BB HU pot. People do silly things in these situations and folding to the checkraise is not ok.

[Emoney]

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bet.

he's got 6-4 and you can fold to the c-r.

-Barron

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for a 25:1 i think you MIGHT think about calling.

[Nightwish]

Folding to a check-raise could be a catastrophic error. There are plenty of retards out there who will check-raise with a straight because (a) they're really excited about their hand and fail to notice that it may have just been counterfeited or (b) they put you on the same hand as them (96) and there's a tiny chance that you'll make a catastrophic error and fold to a check-raise.

[Paluka]

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you can fold to the c-r.

-Barron

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Sometimes trying to be really good at poker just ends up making you really dumb instead.