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Old 07-06-2005, 07:31 PM
ClaytonN ClaytonN is offline
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Default Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG (t403)</font>
UTG+1 (t1030)
MP1 (t1350)
MP2 (t727)
CO (t1710)
Button (t735)
<font color="#C00000">SB (t1370)</font>
Hero (t675)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG pushes for 403, 6 folds, Hero ????
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

I would fold here. He has a big range of hands, but you still don't want to be calling with just deuces. I fold and look for a better spot.
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

this is the only 22 thread that i will ever answer and it is only because i like you clayton.......this is the easiest fold in the world. you are risking over half of your stack on a hand that stands to be a coinlip AT BEST. Check out pokerstove, and see how 22, and 33 rank against such hands as 88, Q9, A7, etc. you will be quite surprised.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

22 is a helluva lot better than Q9o, though a helluva lot worse than 88, and worse than A7o.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:03 PM
HonestIago15 HonestIago15 is offline
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

You'd be be better off folding here and pushing any two next hand than calling.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

Whats wrong with a coinflip getting 3 to 5 odds. I call here.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

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22 is a helluva lot better than Q9o

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No, it's not.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

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Whats wrong with a coinflip getting 3 to 5 odds. I call here.

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You're only a coinflip if you ignore pocket pairs...
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

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22 is a helluva lot better than Q9o, though a helluva lot worse than 88, and worse than A7o.

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wrong answer


22 vs q9o = 51.1/48.9
22 v q9s = 48.1/51.9
22 vs random hand = 50.3%
q9o vs random hand = 55.4%
q9s vs random hand =55.4%
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:08 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Quack Quack Quandry - 11\'s

What kind of hand ranges are you using?

I mean, ok, Q9o isn't a helluva lot better, but it's pretty signifigant. 22 is a top 20-25% hand, and Q9 is a 35% hand, unless I'm completely wrong.
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