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Old 07-20-2005, 05:06 AM
tlow03 tlow03 is offline
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Default 11s on Party AK reraised on flop

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

MP2 (t760)
CO (t1720)
Button (t985)
SB (t775)
BB (t575)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t1525)
Hero (t860)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t50.

Flop: (t137.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t90</font>, BB raises all in t420.


What do you do?
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:07 AM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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Default Re: 11s on Party AK reraised on flop

I call this every time and am almost always amazed by the crap im shown. Even if he managed to hit two pair you got a bunch of outs.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: 11s on Party AK reraised on flop

Call.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:38 AM
tshort tshort is offline
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Default Re: 11s on Party AK reraised on flop

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Call.

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It's sad, but true.
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:40 AM
EasilyFound EasilyFound is offline
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Default Re: 11s on Party AK reraised on flop

THat is a dangerous board to be calling with AK. I've called many times w/AK and a board that looked like that (or with a three flush), and most times I'm beat. It is still early. I seriously consider folding. Am I the only one?
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: 11s on Party AK reraised on flop

Note that the following is not exactly what I recommend but just some general strategical advice that makes sense in a lot of situations similar to this:

If you plan to fold to a check raise, then check behind on the turn. I suspect that if you took this route you would feel a lot better calling later bets (as your opponent is much more likely to bluff after you showed weakness or bet a weak hand for value), and if your opponent is behind they usually don't have THAT many outs. Also if you are behind, you are also giving yourself a shot at some free outs.

The above applies if you are planning to fold when checkraised allin. If you plan to call any raise, then betting is fine.

Basically this is the type of bridge you should often cross before you come to it. It's always best to know in advance what you will do if your opponent moves allin on you and then model your actions accordingly.
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