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Old 03-17-2005, 06:29 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

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am i the only one who fluctuates rapidly between amused an annoyed by people who have no idea what they're talking about using arrogant, stupid phrases like the "do you see why?"

citanul

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I'm with you. Do you see why?
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Old 03-17-2005, 06:31 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

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If there are only 4 players left, I get a clear advantage by driving out on more player. however if there are 8 players left and I have a decent size stack, I would be better off trying to win the pot than knocking out a player...agreed?

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no.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:47 PM
david050173 david050173 is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

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this happened today to me for first time, i never really thought about it before.

4 ppl left in a 10 man sng, button goes all in with 600 chips with 55, sb calls with JJ and i call with KJ. jack flops and we both checked all the way down. If we can get you to put any chips in, he is a fool for not betting.

it makes more sense here, i called not because i thought i had best hand but to increase the chances of busting out the small stack, and their being 4 ppl left it just made sense to check it down and put me and the JJ ITM

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This seems like a prime example of when not to check it down. If I have trips, it has to be a pretty scary board for me to think my hand isn't good.
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:37 PM
Elem100 Elem100 is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

I laughed the first time i read it now its just irritating I agree with you
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:32 PM
HollywoodDB HollywoodDB is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

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If there are only 4 players left, I get a clear advantage by driving out on more player. however if there are 8 players left and I have a decent size stack, I would be better off trying to win the pot than knocking out a player...agreed?

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no.

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Wow, great advice. So far you have resonded with "It depends" and "no". Thanks, I learned alot. If you don't know, just say so. This site is to learn, not to be arrogant.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:42 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

It all depends on your stack size. With 4 players, and your stack just barely higher than the guy who's already all-in, and a mediocre hand, yeah, check it down. But if you're big stack, you're always looking for more chips, not getting ITM.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:49 PM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

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*** You are ignoring this user ***

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No Citanul, you are not the only one who gets annoyed at people using stupid statements like "Do you see why". It is an automatic ignoring for me.
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Old 03-17-2005, 10:01 PM
Mammux Mammux is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

I can think of a couple of reasons to bluff a dry sidepot:

1) You want to set your opponent up for a later hand.
2) You are the big stack and want to keep the short stack alive on the bubble.
3) You have ace high or a low pocket pair, and think you can beat the all-in player but not the other player in the side pot.

What I would rarely or never do, though, is call with a hand that only beats a bluff when the bettor bet into a dry sidepot.

-Magnus
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:44 AM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

you didn't ask for advice.

the first time you asked what we think.

my response was "it depends" which is indeed, what i think.

the second time, your post closed with "agreed?"

my answer ws "no," which accurately answers the question "agreed."

did you ask me for a set of situatoins where i would bluff a player out of a sidepot, or a dry side pot? no. if you had, i would have given you several, and some theory on the subject. ask a stupid question, get a concise answer.

citanul
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:56 AM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Default Re: \"Checking it down\"

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ...I haven’t laughed at a thread in a long time from the SNG forum. Thanks citanul and pooh [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

To OP: Your guest ion is wayyyyy to broad to answer in 100 pages. make a new thread or think out your question more. Thanks

-Zebra

PS: "Do you see why." The has got to go. It doesn’t belong in the SNG forum.
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