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Old 08-11-2005, 12:06 AM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default $109s - Another Bluff Hand

Hopefully you guys don't get tired of seeing these. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
How's the bet size? Just trying to push out two hearts or a 4. I don't think I should even bother trying to move an 8 off his hand, so I didn't see the benefit of betting more.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1055)
CO (t1080)
Button (t2295)
SB (t925)
Hero (t940)
UTG (t1305)
UTG+1 (t1600)
MP1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, CO folds, SB calls t60.

River: (t210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t70</font>
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:19 AM
microbet microbet is offline
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

I think the bet sizes are good. Especially if he is a decent player. He has played it so weakly that he would most likely read larger bets as bluffs. Your river bet certainly can't be a big mistake because you can fold to a reraise with such a clean conscience.
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:29 AM
Ryendal Ryendal is offline
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

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Hopefully you guys don't get tired of seeing these.


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No, they are very interesting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Well I have nothing to say here, the bet size at the river is interesting if you did'nt see any form of agressivity from theses 2 players.
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:49 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

maybe bet the flop to begin with?
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:56 AM
AlphaWice AlphaWice is offline
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

he calls too often with Ace or 8 here: pop it to 120 on river and you can still fold but the strength is higher so that he only calls with J+_
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

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he calls too often with Ace or 8 here: pop it to 120 on river and you can still fold but the strength is higher so that he only calls with J+_

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I think this bet folds out Ax, no?

Great bet; I need to incorporate this play into my game, because I often foolishly check behind on a non-flush-completing river.
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Old 08-11-2005, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

Don't know about the 109s, but in a 22/33 a bet on the flop here would usually take it down.
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand


Well typically I just check the entire way. Of course its okay to bluff sometimes, but there is no way one can say that this is the "correct" play in this precise spot, however it's also hard to say that it's "incorrect".

Your bet size on turn is fine if you are trying to bluff, I would bet a bit more on river if I wanted to bluff, but whatever.
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

After the turn I like your river bet (I wouldn't bet any street to begin with though). I don't think it folds out a 4 though, but less seems enough for it to be worth it.
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: $109s - Another Bluff Hand

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maybe bet the flop to begin with?

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A turn bluff is usually safer as you simply have much more information. Of course I usually don't try this in sit and gos (although sometimes, but more commonly in multis).
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