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Old 02-21-2003, 08:38 PM
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And you could be the main heckler in the audience.
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Old 02-21-2003, 08:39 PM
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And you could be the lead heckler in the audience.
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Old 02-21-2003, 11:19 PM
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You'd need to say something original to have an audience.
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Old 02-21-2003, 11:34 PM
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I'm glad you brought this up, because I was regretting naming brad the lead heckler when that honor should clearly be yours.
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Old 02-22-2003, 12:15 AM
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Schell used the term "imperial," not imperialist. The Untied States is certainly an empire. It was meant to be so. George Washington spoke of the United States as "a rising empire" in 1783. The Founding Fathers had an imperiumin mind--a state that would expand in population and territory, and increase in strength and power. Benjamin Franklin had been writing in terms like this for forty years. The declared purpose in fighting the War for Independence was to create a new empire.

While we no longer seek additional colonies, we certainly seek to maintain the empire we have, a strong and powerful empire. Our diplomacy is not different or purer than that of other powers.
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:01 AM
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thats complete and utter nonsense. remember school ? heh
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