What do you do with double paired broadways?

DeadManJay · #1 02-22-2005, 03:04 PM

I'm a complete newb to omaha, but I've been testing the waters. This is the question, I hope it's not too dumb...
I was dealt QQJJ in the SB earlier today with a raise before me. What do you do in this situation? Also what do you do with the same cards in LP when you can limp?

BradleyT · #2 02-22-2005, 03:51 PM

In SB I probably call depending on how big the pot is (otherwise fold to a small pot). In LP I call.

Big pairs aren't the same monsters in o/8 as they are in hold em.

djr · #3 02-22-2005, 04:01 PM

against a raise it depends on how many people are in the pot (and thus how big the pot is/will be), the bigger the pot the better your odds. In an unraised pot, I'll limp in late position. With these hands you're looking to flop top set that will improve to a strong boat by the river. The nice thing about these hands is if you miss the flop you can easily bail it. If you hit, the odds a low will also hit are small so you tend to scoop.

lighterjobs · #4 02-22-2005, 04:09 PM

this is an o/8 forum, not omaha high.

DeadManJay · #5 02-22-2005, 04:23 PM

I'm missing your statement, this is an o/8 hand...

Klak · #6 02-22-2005, 04:36 PM

i actaully like to raise with these hands. i wouldnt reraise in this situation but i would take a flop for sure. QQJJ is a strong hand because if you hit well on the flop, you will have a good chance to scoop since there isnt going to be a low hand most of the time.

lighterjobs · #7 02-22-2005, 04:41 PM

oh, you just said omaha hand. the reason it matters is because limit o/8 and plo are two different games where you would treat the hand differently.

johnnybeef · #8 02-22-2005, 04:41 PM

when you are drawing to a high only, you want to get in as cheap as possible and preferably in lp.

lighterjobs · #9 02-22-2005, 04:44 PM

IMO, this isn't a raising hand. i would see a flop cheaply with this.

johnnybeef · #10 02-22-2005, 05:03 PM

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this may be a leak in your game. with qqjj, you are drawing to about 6 cards (when you count a flush if you are suited and straight as a card each). the real problem with this is that sets are not very strong in omaha hilo. consider that in hilo many people will stay in with any low. also consider that 7 out of 10 of your opponents are suited. this means that many times your opponents will take the high with a backdoor flush or straight while playing their low as well.