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Old 04-28-2005, 08:32 PM
dfscott dfscott is offline
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I've been thinking of one of the concepts in the Harrington book which says to maximize inducing mistakes in your opponents by betting the most you think they will call incorrectly, so would it be better to encourage more mistakes from them by betting the 400? Or what reasons are there to decide that winning it right here is inherently more important than maximizing the mistake in your opponent?

Or am I misinterpreting HOH?

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That's true, but there are two things working against you here: 1) at the first level some of the players are bad (which isn't bad in and of itself) and 2) you have multiple people in the hand. These two things make it hard to determine what the minimum bet amount should be.

Let's say I bet enough to give the player to my left insufficient pot odds. But he doesn't know that, and calls anyway (which is good for me). However, as soon as he calls (correctly or incorrectly), the next player(s) has better odds. This is what happened to me. LAG boy called my initial raise, making it easy for the guy with the real hand (KdQd) to call as well.

This also had the nasty side effect of making the pot so big that I now didn't have enough chips to put in a meaningful bet on the turn (another reason to push the flop).
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:43 PM
The Student The Student is offline
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Since you are The Student, do you want an assignment?

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Only if you'll give me a gold star if I do a good job.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:55 PM
microbet microbet is offline
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Default Re: First hand, BB, top and bottom pair

I certainly will. I have a 5 year old, so I'm sure I have some gold stars around somewhere.

I'd do it, but I'm trying to learn triple-draw duece-seven.

Estimate the likely $EV outcomes of pushing vs. half pushing.

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Dethgrind's ICM calculator

If you have any questions, let me know. It is a lot of work, so of course, only if you want to do it.
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:18 PM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: First hand, BB, top and bottom pair

I totally agree here. Move in. You get called by AK everytime.

I'm not sure who I would rather have call you though. The AK or the flush draw. You have a redraw on the flush draw and you have the Ace for runner runner. The AK has 6 outs on the turn and possibly 9 going into the river and you have half the redraws...off to the hold'em odds calculator.
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