5-10 hand...

Hello Again,


Same 5-10 game as I described below.


4h brings it in for $2

7s calls $2 ( FISHY FISHY MAN FROM POST BELOW. Basically plays every hand till the end )

9c raises to the $5 ( decent player )

5d re-raises to $10 ( A VERY TIGHT opponent )

(JcJs)9s ME...... I fold

No Higher cards than a 10 were left to act after me.


What would you have done?


Later,

CJ

with a twoflush and a two straight you dont have to have the best hand to call the raise here. if everyone else will call and since the players are likely to call to the end if you make a hand you probably should call. i dont think it is a huge mistake to fold here.


by the way how are the games lately. i was at mohegan on saturday and the games sucked.


Pat

Hi Pat,


As you can tell from my posts lately, I've only recently started playing alot (again) in the last week/week and a half so I might not be the best one to answer your question here. I had that month layoff due to my 'studio' project. But anywhoo the games I've been in have been pretty decent.( I did get a few table changes ) I do think the games are alot better at Foxwoods lately though. I think you regularly play 10-20 if I remember, if so on the weekend you probably want FW but if certain people are in the 'lineup' at Mohegan the games can be great. ( Thats the reason I jumped in that 10-20 game the other day ) 1-5 and 5-10 doesn't really matter, you can get good games at either place. (although I still have issues with 5-10) I have had some GREAT 1-5 games this week at both places. Believe it or not that's the game where you can make some serious loot.


Later,

CJ

To me, the key to not folding here would have been the multiway action for a live pocket pair with a two-flush out. I'd see fourth street hoping to catch a jack and win a monster. If I don't catch my jack or a perfect two-flush card (like the 10s or As), I'm gone.

So who won the hand, and with what?

have have reduced drastically by the re-raise. U ready don't want to try for a two-outer on the J's.

However,if your opponent has a big pocket pair and he is capable of releasing it if U pair your doorcard with another "9",then it's more of a call. U then have more ways of winning the pot.

But he might have trips and I don't know if he is capable of folding a set of 5's even if he puts U on a set of 9's.

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Because of the implied odds if U nab a "J",calling is not bad,but I think folding is best.

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I,personally,do not like to play "close call" situations.

However,in a high middle limit game,U would generally see two more cards--U would have more of a reason to continue to play(more dead money in the pot)

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In a higher middle limit game,U would re-raise the tight player,hopes he has a big buried pair and not trips. Although U would be an underdog,U would still be a "money favorite" in the long run .

The "dead money" in the pot would compensate for your underdog status.

Happy pokering,

Sitting Bull

well Mike Caro suggests that the more hidden you strength is the more apt you should be to call.

However I would suggest the tight opponent had better than Jacks to reraise from mid position with a dink in the door. I would think A's or a set. I wonder how many straight cards to the 5 were out and also how many Diamonds were out. as these may be a factor in your determination as well as the number of spades that were gone and whether the 10, Q, or 8 of spades or unsuited were missing.


wombat6

Oh yeah and what are the odds that this was a free card play ?


wombat6

Wombat, I don't think he would be trying for a free card on 3rd. He would wait until 4th to raise in the hopes of getting a free card, I believe. If he makes a maneuver like this on 3rd, he isn't really getting a free card. He is paying the same amount for the card, just on 3rd instead of 4th. I'm still learnin', so correct me if I'm wrong.


-- Homer J.

oops your right my bad....besides very tight players generally don’t use the free card play

or deceptive strength wagering very often . It goes against their very nature unless their

really a D-TAP or serial killer in disguise.


wombat6