Another "anyone capable of laying this down?" hand

Gramps · #1 09-19-2004, 12:51 AM

Party Poker $200 SNG. SB is a very solid player who've I've played a number of SNGs with without seeing her get out of line. She took about 1/2 second to act on this hand. MP is the semi-loose big stack, so the coldcall didn't seem to mean much from what he'd shown to this point.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (5 handed)

Button (t2295)
SB (t1245)
BB (t880)
Hero (t1195)
MP (t4385)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t150, MP calls t150, Button folds, SB raises to t1245 (All-In), BB folds, Hero...???

stripsqueez · #2 09-19-2004, 12:55 AM

i think its a normal fold

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

pshreck · #3 09-19-2004, 12:59 AM

Easy fold.

One of those coinflip or worse situations, very little chance of anything else.

For confident, skilled players, JJ is a hand that should be folded to pushes often in SNG's.

The fact that you have the read on the player being solid makes it all that much easier. Only way I make the call here is if the read is over aggresive, or maniac etc...

durron597 · #4 09-19-2004, 01:14 AM

With the MP coldcaller and the fact that SB pushed anyway, this is an easy fold. This is espcially true with your read that the SB is solid.

Kopefire · #5 09-19-2004, 01:20 AM

JJ is a coinflip against lots of drawing hands ... you have every reason to suspect someone's sitting on a premium hand -- how can you NOT fold this?

The only way, with what you've told us, that I can see playing this is if it was a multi-table, you're already in the money, and you have someone at the table with a huge stack advantage and i'm starting to get short stacked ... then maybe ...

Gramps · #6 09-19-2004, 01:45 AM

...Hero folds, MP calls t1095.

Flop: (t2690) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t2690) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2690) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t2690

SB has Th Tc (one pair, tens).
MP has 7h 7d (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: SB wins t2690. 

I figured I was up against QQ/KK/AK...maybe TT at best. Given the results, I just wanted to make sure my thinking wasn't off in laying down JJ here. I'm still thinking TT is probably the worst pair a solid non-aggro player would make this play with here.

durron597 · #7 09-19-2004, 02:06 AM

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I'm still thinking TT is probably the worst pair a solid non-aggro player would make this play with here.

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The range of hands the SB has is AA-TT, AK. Maybe 99 but I doubt it. Good fold.