KK with an AAK flop

bisonbison · #1 11-23-2003, 01:42 PM

I've been at this table about 10 minutes, very typical loose-passive. There is one LAP, the BB on this hand, for whom I have one note: "LA idiot". I guess this hand is about whether to trust your player notes.

Party Poker 0.50/1 (9 handed)
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and is MP3

EP1 limps, MP2(poster) checks, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, EP1 calls, MP2(poster) calls

Flop(10 SB): A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets, EP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button folds, BB calls

Turn(16 BB): Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls

River(24 BB): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls

I put him on Ax. I figured if he had A-face card, he'd have reraised preflop. In a way, the 7 was actually more of a scare card than the queen.

Capping on every street was maybe a little excessive, but should I slow down at some point with, let's see, the 5th best hand?

Results to follow.

Webster · #2 11-23-2003, 01:57 PM

I sure would slow down - if it's one thing these guys don't toss it's an Ace ANYTHING!

The pot is big enough and your not going to drive him out by raising.

bisonbison · #3 11-23-2003, 01:59 PM

right, but I'm ahead of Ax. If he's got Ax, he's drawing to a hand. And if he had AK or AQ, I'm pretty sure he would have let me hear about it pre-flop.

Webster · #4 11-23-2003, 02:15 PM

very true. He only has a 109-1 chance he has AA. Perhaps it's MY problem with worry (see the thread belore you).

bisonbison · #5 11-23-2003, 02:21 PM

well, if the guy wasn't listed in my notes as "idiot", I certainly would have slowed down. But he was on the big blind, and I was able to pokertracker him as a big losing player.

Saborion · #6 11-23-2003, 02:21 PM

Would it be all that wrong to call his 3-bet at the flop, to extract more money from the button?

On the river I might`ve just called him considering the action on the turn.

I think I would`ve just called the BBs bet on the flop, to lure in more people into the pot. I mean, you do have the third best hand at the flop, and you`re VERY likely to hear from AA pre-flop, regardless of position.

bisonbison · #7 11-23-2003, 02:23 PM

When the two players between BB and I folded, I figured it was a question of extracting the most bets from this guy.

bisonbison · #8 11-23-2003, 02:30 PM

Results. You're not going to believe this:

I won, with a pot of 26.5 BB.

He didn't show his cards, but hand history revealed he had J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Ludicrous. He's now my favorite idiot.

Webster · #9 11-23-2003, 02:38 PM

Well - he probebly had you on 2 pair or trips and pot odds (because you kept raising) had him thinking that (if he WAS thinking) he had to call.

Bad move -good job!

rkiray · #10 11-23-2003, 03:33 PM

And the question of the post was whether or not to trust your notes? Looks obvious to me.