What am I up against?

IdiotVig · #1 10-31-2004, 01:15 AM

PS 5+.5, blinds 15/30, 7 players left. Table is loose/passive, now that the 2 real agressors at the table are out. You're on the button with ATo. Everybody limps, and we see the flop 7-handed. Flop comes AAK rainbow. UTG bets 30, UTG+1 makes it 210, UTG+2, who has you covered by 10 chips, pushes. Mucked around to you.

1.) What does the pusher have?

2a.) Is this worth a call?

2b.) Out of curiosity, is this a call against a typical PS 10+1, 20+2, or 30+3 lineup?

-IdiotVig

Ogre · #2 10-31-2004, 02:07 AM

Its hard to put him on an exact hand but one of them has you beat. Although they would probably slowplay AK/AA/KK which only leaves AJ/AQ. It is a tricky hand but it is way too early in the tourny to be calling and all-in like that.

OGRE

pshreck · #3 10-31-2004, 02:10 AM

CALL.

You are up against any random ace... and occasionally no ace. At this low buy in you have to call this every time.

It does become different as the buy ins go up.

Ogre · #4 10-31-2004, 02:24 AM

I don't like calling all-in after a bet raise and a push with ten kicker. I did forget to factor in the $5 buy in though.

lastchance · #5 10-31-2004, 03:42 AM

Your opponents suck, so they could have any ace, any king, maybe a pocket pair, a gutshot, or just plain junk trying to bluff you out. Call. Your opponents suck way too much for you to lay it down.

Benholio · #6 10-31-2004, 05:33 AM

Yeah, you definitely call here, and most likely see any random ace.

I don't think it changes a whole lot as you go up in the limits, either. AK and KK are going to be very rare in any hand where you saw 7 people go to the flop without a raise (even less so after seeing that flop). AQ and AJ aren't ahead of you enough to even worry about it.

captZEEbo1 · #7 10-31-2004, 06:53 PM

yeah, you can almost assume you'd seen a pf raise from AT+ at this buyin. you are probably up against a KQ a pocketpair or an Ax (worse than AT). I'd definitely call here.

Rethinking it, I'd be hardpressed to see another A from anyone. The average person wouldn't raise their trips at this level.

codewarrior · #8 10-31-2004, 07:30 PM

Dangerous thinking. Do you see why?

codewarrior · #9 10-31-2004, 07:31 PM

Well said. I agree.

codewarrior · #10 10-31-2004, 07:31 PM

Agreed.