fold on the turn?

wyattjames4 · #1 12-10-2004, 01:41 PM

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (9.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, UTG folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (11.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero ...

Should I have just folded the turn?

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #2 12-10-2004, 01:43 PM

You should fold this preflop. Given that you're there, flop play is good, but the turn checkraise tells you you're well behind and quite possibly drawing dead. Muck it.

Firefly · #3 12-10-2004, 01:48 PM

I'd fold preflop, I don't think you have enough callers to make you're drawing hand profitable.
You can fold the turn. A c/r when you have top pair weak kicker is a fairly sure sign that you are beat.
You're flop play is good.

afk · #4 12-10-2004, 02:01 PM

I fold preflop, but since you made it to the flop I think your flop play is fine. Fold to the turn c/r though.

Once you call the turn though you should generally call the river, though in this case I'd be surprised if 12-1 was good enough to make a profit. Though I can't really back that up with anything solid.

wyattjames4 · #5 12-10-2004, 02:31 PM

why would you fold a suted ace on the button preflop? not enough callers? how many callers do you want then generally to play this preflop? doesnt sshe say to play a suited ace from any position?

meep_42 · #6 12-10-2004, 02:43 PM

Note the UTG raise telling you that you are likely dominated or drawing thin pre-flop.

-d

btspider · #7 12-10-2004, 02:50 PM

you have to tighten up significantly when someone else raises.

chesspain · #8 12-10-2004, 03:02 PM

I would fold preflop, but since you didn't, I would only call the flop, since I don't see much point to raising this flop last to act.

Against an unknown CO, I'm probably calling this turn c/r. And for God's sake, please don't say that you folded the river, especially since this card now puts you ahead of A4/A5/45.

GrunchCan · #9 12-10-2004, 03:07 PM

Fold PF.

Call the flop. You can't raise for value, since you are very likely to be dominated. You can't raise to protect, becasue your raise isn't usually going to force anyone out who has already called. The fact that UTG bet-folded is uncommon. Don't count on that happening.

Fold the turn. Youv'e probably been drawing dead since the flop.