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#21
09-22-2005, 12:52 AM
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Re: A pair of Eeegahs on the button
Because you shouldnt..
I would be more tempted to call this PF rather than 3-bet and hope that the blinds come along. If even one of the blinds come along I think we easily have enough odds to hit the set or bet out the low ragged flop. As for the flop. Easy fold. River:raise and call 3-bet. 
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#24
09-22-2005, 05:12 AM
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Re: A pair of Eeegahs on the button
I hate these situations. With the patterns so far I find it hard to put either villian on a hand. I think I just call here hoping that its not 3bet back to me. I think I'd have to fold to the 3bet.
My gut tells me we're good or at least splitting. But what do we do if it comes back 3bet? I think if you plan on call/call 3bet you have to raise here because if you call the 3bet back you'll also have to call the cap. A raise here might stymie the agression if one of em doesn't have the nut flush. ughh, i feel sick
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#25
09-22-2005, 08:28 AM
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Re: A pair of Eeegahs on the button
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[ QUOTE ] I wonder why noone noticed that you should be folding this preflop? [/ QUOTE ] This is an easy pf 3-bet IMO. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't call it an easy pf 3-bet. I'd say it was good, but not for new learners. I'd three bet here almost always given the reads.
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#28
09-22-2005, 10:43 PM
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Re: A pair of Eeegahs on the button
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I wonder why noone noticed that you should be folding this preflop? [/ QUOTE ] This is an easy pf 3-bet IMO. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't call it an easy pf 3-bet. I'd say it was good, but not for new learners. I'd three bet here almost always given the reads. [/ QUOTE ] What specifically about the reads makes this automatic for you? An unknown player has raised from early position. Does the fact that the idiot has already limped in really overcome the fact that you're likely far behind UTG+1's range? I like a 3 bet if perhaps UTG+1 was a solid player who could be trying to isolate the donk, but you have no reason to believe this. For anyone wondering, SSH says 3 bet only AA-TT and AK from late position, unless four people have entered the pot ahead of you.
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#29
09-22-2005, 11:18 PM
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Re: A pair of Eeegahs on the button
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I wonder why noone noticed that you should be folding this preflop? [/ QUOTE ] This is an easy pf 3-bet IMO. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't call it an easy pf 3-bet. I'd say it was good, but not for new learners. I'd three bet here almost always given the reads. [/ QUOTE ] What specifically about the reads makes this automatic for you? An unknown player has raised from early position. Does the fact that the idiot has already limped in really overcome the fact that you're likely far behind UTG+1's range? I like a 3 bet if perhaps UTG+1 was a solid player who could be trying to isolate the donk, but you have no reason to believe this. For anyone wondering, SSH says 3 bet only AA-TT and AK from late position, unless four people have entered the pot ahead of you. [/ QUOTE ] I think SSH assumes reasonably legitimate opposition. Your position and MR DONKHEAD's dead money more than make up for any deficit you give away to UTG+1. BWWIK
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