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Old 10-11-2005, 11:08 PM
Moonsugar Moonsugar is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise. Or raise instead of open limp.

Both of those lines I like better than the way you played it.

Limp fold I like to do early to set up the limp/rr later.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:45 PM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise.

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This has to be incredibly wrong.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:51 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise.

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This has to be incredibly wrong.

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Oops!

You have a leak...

Yugoslav
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:40 PM
Deuce2High Deuce2High is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise.

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This has to be incredibly wrong.

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Oops!

You have a leak...

Yugoslav

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QFT

And for what it's worth. If I happened to misclick and/or make a terrible play and see the flop after that raise, I'd still check/fold.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise.

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This has to be incredibly wrong.

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Oops!

You have a leak...

Yugoslav

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QFT

And for what it's worth. If I happened to misclick and/or make a terrible play and see the flop after that raise, I'd still check/fold.

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Care to elaborate?
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:55 PM
Deuce2High Deuce2High is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

Sure....

Folding Preflop: Even though I'm closing the action with this call, it is just too much to risk to hit a set right here, which is the ONLY way you will ever extract 1 more chip out of this pot. Combine that with the fact that after you limped UTG, there is a UTG+1 raise and then two MP calls, you are likely dominated anyways.

Autofolding the Flop: You are beat here 55-60% (estimate) of the time. (99-AA)
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:01 PM
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You're right that you need to hit a set to win the pot. You are also right that you are likely dominated. Still an easy call though.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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Folding Preflop: Even though I'm closing the action with this call, it is just too much to risk to hit a set right here, which is the ONLY way you will ever extract 1 more chip out of this pot. Combine that with the fact that after you limped UTG, there is a UTG+1 raise and then two MP calls, you are likely dominated anyways.

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Wouldn't you want to be up against a high PP overpair when you hit your set? The implied odds are there for a call. The only argument against calling is a stack retention argument, and I am not persuaded by such an argument in this case.

(Edited so I sounded less patronizing.)
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:20 PM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise.

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This has to be incredibly wrong.

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Oops!

You have a leak...

Yugoslav

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Yugo,

You are my boy, but folding 88 getting 5:1 for just over 5% of your stack in a multi way pot is a HUGE leak.

Love,
Beef
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Old 10-12-2005, 06:19 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: $55: Overpair in level 1

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I am a fan of folding this preflop after the raise.

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This has to be incredibly wrong.

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Oops!

You have a leak...

Yugoslav

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Yugo,

You are my boy, but folding 88 getting 5:1 for just over 5% of your stack in a multi way pot is a HUGE leak.

Love,
Beef

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Sorry, but we've been over this.

Most players won't pull out enough $$ post flop with this hand here to make it worth it even though it's only 6% of your stack.

BTW Deuce: What does QFT mean?!?!

Yugoslav
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