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Old 05-02-2005, 08:51 PM
elonkra elonkra is offline
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Default Fixed a very basic leak today that might help rookie bubblers...

My leak: Overagression/Not Knowing When to Slow Back Down

It's obviously a fundamental and easily-fixed leak, so this won't do any good for the old hands on the board, but I think it has helped my game tremendously as of late (even if it was just variance, it's a problem I'm glad I've recognized and attended to), and I know there are players who read these boards who are as green as me, so I thought I'd add it:

I've been bubbling out and not capitalizing on my profit WAY TOO MUCH lately, and it's really been pissing me off because I've had no clue what I'm doing wrong. I tightened up preflop, made sure I wasn't being overly skeptical of my opponents, learned about continuation bets (read HOH, and thus stopped losing so much money w/AK type hands), tried to sharpen up on when to draw and when not to, and felt like I was pretty good at recognizing the inflection point and becoming loose-aggressive when appropriate. In spite of the fact that I consistently played tight and disciplined enough to last to pre-bubble play, and in spite of the fact that I was consistently making moves at the right times, so as to often put myself back in contention (or even among the chipleaders), it seemed that this "push or fold" technique just wasn't working out for me in the end. Somebody would always catch me. The problem is basically that I was pushing every pushable hand other than any two (Ax, K8 suited, e.g.), without regard to any factors other than the quality of my cards. I wasn't thoroughly considerng my fold equity and realizing that I needed to look not just to the quality of the cards (Ax, K8suited, e.g.)--which may very well be great to push with at the appropriate time--but also to what my opponents are thinking of me, how much I've been pushing, and how likely they are to call (given their position and chipstack). In addition to the fact that I wasn't ever laying down pushable hands when I was short and needing to steal, I was also failing to come out of push or fold mode after doubling up and reaching a relative comfort zone. Not recognizing when it was finally my turn to sit back, exercise some restraint, and watch the other guys make all the desperate moves was really costing me some money. Don't really know that this will even help those of you who, like me, are working on the fundamentals, but I thought I'd post it anyway. Good luck.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:24 PM
Degen Degen is offline
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Default Re: Fixed a very basic leak today that might help rookie bubblers...

i think some of what you said may be correct, however this statement troubles me:

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I've been bubbling out and not capitalizing on my profit WAY TOO MUCH lately

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I think a great mistake a lot of people make is to change their game when they start losing...they play more timid and start playing for 3rd and things of this nature.

I've had streaks where it seems like I cannot lose an all-in. My 63s always seems to hold up vs AA on the bubble, things like that.

Then i've had streaks where it seems as though i've lost 20 straight all-ins to a 3-outer...(QQ vs A6o for instance).


This is called V A R I A N C E.

It happens to everybody. Big deal. Just because you start to encounter V A R I A N C E does not mean that you need to start tweaking your game. In fact, if you are playing winning poker (which may be a false assumption I am making), that is probably the worst thing you can do.

Take some time off if you must. Drop down a level. Play less tables. But don't question your skills and your methods. After all, that is what built your roll in the first place right?


Andre
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:04 PM
vindikation vindikation is offline
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Default Re: Fixed a very basic leak today that might help rookie bubblers...

I'm going through some bubble/push growing pains right now. I'm finding the same problems as you. I've only been using this technique for a few weeks so I'm still adjusting, but I'm finding a lot of the same stuff as you.

I need to be a LITTLE more selective with when I push. I go from super tight to super aggressive (following the blinds vs. my chip stack) and I think that I need to find a nice middle ground island in there so I'm a little less easy to read.
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