What the sites plan to do about the S.627

[jek187]

Response Time: 5d 9h 47m

Dear Jason,

Thank you for contacting our Customer Care team.

We apologize for the delayed response,however please be assured that we also concerned about the same.

We are watching the progress of the bill closely, but unless a specific law is enacted, if ever, it is not possible to know what that law will prohibit or not, and consequently, what changes,if any, we will have to make as a business.

If you have further questions and/or concerns, please contact us via our live chat feature or simply reply to this message.

Sincerely,

Conrad Hale,
Customer Care Representative


Well, at least they responded.

[HUSKER'66]

Hear ye, hear ye! Listen to the good man! Let us not be a "doormat" for our government.(apologies to you and your handle D)This whole crusade against internet poker was probably started by the same type of idiots that try to steal someones car; injure themselves in the process, turn and sue the owners of the car......and win [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]I have a feeling that the catylyst of our government protecting us from ourselves stems in part from the federal case that came before the court in Louisiana. I don't remember all the details, but in summary: two seperate individuals charged against their MC/Visa cards for thousands of dollars over the course of a few days, went online, played/lost it all, blamed the credit card companies for allowing them to charge against their accounts, claimed the the credit card companies were acting ilegally by allowing funding of "illegal offshore gaming sites" (their words not mine). Now does anyone suppose that this lawsuit would have taken place if these two "individuals" (I'm being nice) had gone online, played and actually won?!?!?!? They got hold of some bleeding heart prosecuter (who wanted to make a name for himself), claiming foul play.....that is one of the reasons that this whole thing has snowballed to where it is now. This is not a case of the majority rule, this is a case of Peter who cried "wolf" and though this issue is very important to us, the majority don't know or don't care. You have senators/congressman that claim online poker is the "crack cocaine" of the internet, and that sites are targeting children with their arcade game type graphics. These people are letting their personal/private agendas affect us. I would be curious to see how many government officials play in a weekly/monthly game around Georgetown and capital hill. There are at least two Supreme Court Justices that play in a regular game. California, changed their laws with the understanding that poker is a game of skill, more than chance, when they allowed the poker rooms to open more that 15 years ago. The only way that we are going to get around this is to fight for regulation, because the government is blind to all but the dollars that they are missing. They want a piece of the pie ladies and gentlemen, and if they can't get it, then none of us (residing in the USA)get to eat.

[Terry]

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Do you suggest now,that everybody
who is not perfect in english grammar and whose native language
is not english should stop writing here.

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I suggest that any posts criticizing the English of a non-native English speaker must be made in the native language of the poster being criticized.

[happyjaypee]

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I suggest that any posts criticizing the English of a non-native English speaker must be made in the native language of the poster being criticized.


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Je suis tout à fais daccord avec cette idée! Je me suis déjà fais traiter de singe parce qu'un de mes "post" comportait plusieurs fautes de grammaires. J'aimerais bien une lettre d'excuse en Français svp. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Merci!


Heureux [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[rusty JEDI]

Being Canadian i was forced to take french up to grade 11. Allow me to try to roughly interpret this.

Je suis tout à fais daccord avec cette idée! Je me suis déjà fais traiter de singe parce qu'un de mes "post" comportait plusieurs fautes de grammaires. J'aimerais bien une lettre d'excuse en Français svp.


"I feel i am better than the rest of Canada because i speak french. I also agree with the current messed up system that screws the west and sends all of our federal money towards the french speaking whiners. We often threaten seperation because we use this as leverage to get more than our piece of the pie, even though we know we would be doomed on our own and surely sucked into the US system if they would take us. The only thing we have really ever contributed to Canada is poutine and the Expos. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]"

Ok, now for real lets see how i do. This is not word for word or even close just trying to pick out the main ideas.

"I am okay with this idea. I think something about himself making lots of grammar errors. I like to use this as an excuse to speak french."

Thank You

Happy [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

So happyjaypee how did i do?

[dux]

I don't believe that they haven't so much as heard of the S.627. Perhaps this is just their misguided poker employee. I would be surprised that The Gaming Club online casino would ignore legislation that may affect cash ins/outs.

[jek187]

This email got lost in the shuffle, but came in after my "reminder" to the sites who had not yet responded.

Response time: 5d 22h

Dear Jason,

There are a series of complex legal issues involved and we are not at liberty to release any plans. Suffice to say that we are extremely interested in servicing our
American clients but will only continue to do so within the confines of the law.

If there is anything else we can do for you, don't hesitate to contact us.

Sincerely,

Golden Palace Poker

[jek187]

InterasinoPoker is now the only site that I contacted who has not responded. Although the Gaming Club must still be doing research on the legislation I brought to their attention as I haven't heard anything else from them.

I resent another copy of my previous email to ICP, just adding the line "This is my 3rd attempt for a response." in there. We shall see if they ever respond.

[jek187]

Response time: 12d 4h 32m

Hi,

Thanks for your email, please accept my apologies for the delay in my response, I have been away from the office unexpectedly, and unable to get to my emails. There have been successive attempts to ban online gaming in the U.S., dating back to 1995, which have failed to date. As we've seen in previous Congressional terms, there can be numerous twists and turns along the U.S. legislative process. As well, probition bills continue to cause considerable controversy, largely due to exemptions/carve outs given to certain interest groups in order to advance the bill. Most recently, the Senate bill (S.627) that was approved by the Senate Banking Committee was only the first step in the Senate process. S.627 currently provides carve outs for horse and dog racing, which has created opposition from other major interest groups (casinos, state lotteries and the Indians), who also want exemptions. Again, past attempts have shown that it is difficult to draft a bill that pleases everyone. There is no guarantee a bill will become law.

Nevertheless, as you indicated this ongoing U.S. uncertainty poses a risk to our business. A primary initiative we've undertaken with our software provider, CryptoLogic, is to continue to offer a wide range of payment options so that players will have choices, as well as working with payment processors in different parts of the world. We also continue to strengthen our customer service team and support tools to enable us to respond proactively and promptly to players experiencing difficulties. These are some of the initiatives we can speak to, which are producing good results in this challenging business environment.

As an industry, we have an ongoing lobbying effort. We are trying to help U.S. lawmakers realize the difficulties in trying to ban online gaming, which will only drive it underground and not stem the growth of this industry. At the same time, we are trying to help them appreciate the merits of regulating online gaming for everyone's benefit (players, governments, operators, suppliers).

I trust this gives you a sense of the situation and initiatives in place.

Regards,

Ryan Hartley
Manager - InterCasinoPoker
ryanh@intercasinopoker.com

You can also try our Support Numbers:
Playershelp and Ecash Direct

1-866-687-7926 North America
+ 800-2467-9261 International
helpdesk@playershelp.com


This was the last site I was waiting on. One side note: If Ryan was unable to check his email, couldn't one of his underlings replied and at least said something like "Our manager is currently unavailable but we will forward your request to him and he will respond upon return." Or something like that? Just a pet peeve...I hate being ignored by sites.

[dux]

Well, you may hate it, but the response is well thought out. It also shows you the casinos are watching the legislation.