Any of you poker players Christians as well? If so, how do you deal..

[whiskeytown]

actually, I've heard this -

basically, by forbidding priests to marry, any wealth they may accrue gets given back to the church -

there are verses in the bible indicating the Apostles, specifically Peter and Paul, were married at one time and that while their conversions may have cost them their wives, it wasn't a requirement - strictly a product of Catholic Theology.

RB

[Talk2BigSteve]

What ever happen to the parable of the talents???

If we look at poker as a skill(talent) to be learned and you attempt to play 100% +EV. Then are you not investing your money just like the wise son???

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[vulturesrow]

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actually, I've heard this -

basically, by forbidding priests to marry, any wealth they may accrue gets given back to the church -

there are verses in the bible indicating the Apostles, specifically Peter and Paul, were married at one time and that while their conversions may have cost them their wives, it wasn't a requirement - strictly a product of Catholic Theology.

RB

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whiskey,

I know you probably heard this but it isnt correct. Your statment was actually closer to the truth. It is a product of Catholic theology, with biblical and historical support. If youre interested, I can probably post some references, at least explaining the Catholic take on this.

EDIT: The Catholic Church doesnt expressly forbid gambling. It has a pretty reasonable take on it actually.

[miketurner]

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Leviticus 19:11 "Do not lie. Do not deceive one another" It doesn't get simpler than that. I don't know anywhere off the top of my head where it says 'do not gamble' though. I suppose I do try to deceive people about the strength of my hand though.

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What translation/bible version? I was specifically talking about the ten commandments. The ten commandments are worded very carefully. I don't have time to look into it today, but I'm sure there was a bigger meaning to that story. Quotes taken out of context, especially translated quotes are often useless.

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I have the NIV version. I concede that there may be errors in translation. But I don’t know Hebrew or the location of the original text... so I work with what I have and have faith. I’m pretty sure that a believer knows in his heart what is right or wrong for themselves. I can easily see how the devil can turn gambling into a perversion, making it wrong... but I tried to look up the word “gambling” in the concordance of my Bible and found nothing. I found lots about lying though... Look up Jeremiah 9 for yourself. The whole verse is about lying. It seems pretty clear. I don’t think translation errors could change this verse so much to think that lying is ok. If you don’t have time to look things up... it would be wise not to make comments like “The Bible doesn’t even say lying is a sin.” There are many sins listed outside of the 10 Commandments. Again, this is not an attack on you. Please don’t take it personal.

[Pocket Trips]

I thought psychology was the de-facto religion forum??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[grimel]

the anti gambling stance has ONE logical base (if you get an ebible and do a global search for somthing like casting lots you'd find a few bazillion places where various happenings were decided by such) - getting rich without effort. Anyone who thinks making a living playing poker is without hard effort needs to try it. The "problem" with gambling is nobody has put enough thought into the various general statements. Lottery/keno/general roulette/big wheel/etc/etc are games of chance with absurd odd against the player with the chance for a huge payout if one gets lucky. No skill involved. Blackjack, poker, pool, and a few other means of wagering (there is a difference in gamblign and wagering) have a very important skill factor at for a given risk level the same people will consistantly win the most $$.

I find it funny that many of those complaining about poker think nothing of entering a fishing tourney or golf tourney, but consider a poker tourney "gambling". I've seen them play golf, I'm gambling less walking into a strange casino and playing black 17.

[grimel]

The 10 Commandments are a very small portion of the law. His quote was accurate, he left out to not act in a deceptive manner and a few other things. There is much more to it than picking and choosing random text. People tend to make the whole thing more complicated than it is by taking suggestions and making them sins.