god i feel stupid now... - Page 3

trdi · #21 07-21-2005, 04:55 PM

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In my opinion yes, but I can kind of understand why you did it.

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me1tdown · #22 07-21-2005, 05:28 PM

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In my opinion yes, but I can kind of understand why you did it.

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Took me a few minutes ( well, a lot more time than that really ) to catch up with you...
Are you looking at this and thinking the other Jack is in play with the naturally better kicker? I'm actually kind of in awe that you can multi-table, see top set on the flop, and process the weakness of your kicker at the same time. Really, sincerely, honestly, and without sarcasm of any kind -- it took me minutes to even follow your thinking. For me, I guess there are some advantages for having a pavlovian response to flopping a set -- I couldn't help but push here every time.

bmxreed36 · #23 07-21-2005, 05:32 PM

I would have check-called the flop and turn and folded on the river. Pretty standard I think.

Jay36489 · #24 07-21-2005, 05:32 PM

You just reminded me of a song.

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wiiiillld wiiillllld horses couldnt drag me aaawwaayyy

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(from this hand)

unreal_nh · #25 07-21-2005, 05:34 PM

lol...so would you lead out fold? or just check fold the river?

bmxreed36 · #26 07-21-2005, 05:36 PM

Nothing wrong with leading out folding on the river. I hope you didn't mean you'd fold the flop. God, you should feel stupid now if that's so.

Slim Pickens · #27 07-21-2005, 05:46 PM

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I would have check-called the flop and turn and folded on the river. Pretty standard I think.

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I think if you're going to slowplay, you have to do it by open-folding the flop. Waiting until the river is just letting your opponents draw to a worse hand for free.

trdi · #28 07-21-2005, 07:03 PM

Look, if he had some read on the opponents, than ok. But without the read you can't fold that. It's a long term -EV, don't you agree? You will fold it correctly once in [too many] cases to make it profitable.

tigerite · #29 07-21-2005, 07:06 PM

Because he was frightened of a higher jack, 3 kicker is rather crap. But I said yes I think it was wrong, and I never fold here.

ChuckyB · #30 07-21-2005, 07:17 PM

The thing is, his three will never come into play as the kicker. On the flop he's got JJJ93...but the turn and river will be higher than 3 (and if not...woo hoo! Jacks full of twos!).

I can't imagine folding this on the flop...at least not at the level I play at. It's playing too scared to be worried about the case jack.