Yassir Arafat, RIP

[wacki]

Maybe this link will work

http://www.honestreporting.com/artic..._1929-2004.asp

[wacki]

I don't know a whole lot about the Palestinian/Isreal conflict, but everything I have read to date makes Arafat look like a real scumbag.

The one thing I still can't get over is his relationship with his wife, how much money she has, and how much money the palestinian's have. If that's not a telling sign of a scumbag I don't know what is.

Chris Alger, I'm going to have to agree with TSC on this one. With that much money Arafat had to of had his hand in every cookie jar in that area.

[Gamblor]

CNN.com

The brigades are a group of West Bank militias affiliated with Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's al Fatah faction and have been one of the driving forces behind the current Palestinian intifada (uprising). While the group initially vowed to target only Israeli soldiers and settlers in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, in early 2002 it began a spree of terrorist attacks against civilians in Israeli cities. In March 2002, after a deadly Al Aqsa Brigades suicide bombing in Jerusalem, the State Department added the group to the U.S. list of foreign terrorist organizations.

Jpost.com

It didn't matter that he wasn't even born in Palestine, or that he gleefully "took" the millions of aid dollars needed to build a state for his people. He had the walk of a homeless refugee and the talk of a charismatic leader and he ruled his beloved Fatah with an iron fist verging on dictatorship.

So he rules Fatah with an iron fist, yet a group ideologically and financially linked with Fatah is carrying out terrorist attacks against Arafat's will.

And as icing on the cake, just in case you weren't entirely convinced, here's the March 14, 2002 USA Today interview with Maslama Thabet, head of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in the West Bank.

"The truth is, we are Fatah itself, but we don't operate under the name of Fatah," he said in a recent interview. "We are the armed wing of the organization. We receive our instructions from Fatah. Our commander is Yasser Arafat himself."

Come on, give me a harder one.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Uh, no. That's not what the word "advocate" means, it's not even close. This will be easier for you if you buy a dictionary.

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2 : a person or group that defends or maintains a cause or proposal

Maintains a cause.... how much more obvious is it. His actions did everything possible to maintain the terrorists cause.

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In which case you could cite dozens or even any articles proving that Arafat's connection to AAM terrorists is so direct that he can turn them on or off like lights.

But you can't, and that's the point.

[/ QUOTE ] Unfortunately this forum doesn't have enough room to hold all the articles, do a simple google search. Type in "Arafat Terrorism", and take a look at what comes up. I shouldn't even have to post anything, because its absurdly obvious and well known. Now, if you refuse to accept, what is common knowledge, that is your problem. But for you to sit there and say Arafat had no connections(direct and indirect) only makes you look more foolish than you did before.

Damn, this is like talking to a stubborn spoiled child whose parents never told him he was wrong [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[ThaSaltCracka]

why do you think I didn't post a link. This is so stupid.

[ACPlayer]

From honestreporting.com

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Honest reporting my ass. Can you say propaganda?

[ThaSaltCracka]

the suicide bombers are terrorists, whats the problem?

[ACPlayer]

Just pointing out that the particular source posted has a particular axe to grind. Just as Al Jazeera may have their own agenda when they put out "facts".

You dont think that is true?

[Chris Alger]

CNN says a group that became terroristic but didn't start out that way was somehow "affiliated" with an organization headed by Arafat, with the old quote from an AAM militant bragging that his "commander" is Arafat. (Except no one can find any evidence of commands about attacking civilians or even anything else). And the preposterously pro-Israel tabloid Jersusalem Post says "iron fist." For you, this is "easy" proof that Arafat "advocates . . . killing civilians."

This is about the tenth time that you've been challenged but unable to come up with any evidence direclty linking Arafat to any act of terrorism. It's about time you gave up. More importantly, you have no business criticizing Arafat for anything because you've said that terrorist bombs that target civilians are justified. If you were Palestinian or Arabic, you'd be bitching about how Arafat's too peaceful.

[mmbt0ne]

http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/bu/ya/money_hp.htm

2. According to these documents, the requests for financial aid – which is a vital component in preserving and encouraging the terrorist activity – come from the lowest echelons, from Fatah branches and Districts. In most cases they are addressed to Marwan Barghouti. However, occasionally branch and District heads address Arafat directly or operate via senior security apparatuses’ officials (Tawfik Tirawi). In any case, Marwan Barghouti is again noted as a central axis on which the whole system is established: he mediates between the field activists in the West Bank and Arafat, and recommends to Arafat how to allocate funds. Arafat is personally involved in allocating money to terrorist squads down to the lowest echelon, and down to handling personal problems of individuals.

See link for the hand written documents.