Problem with outs....

[js13_tps]

just looking at this from the flush perspective, does the fact hero has to catch runner-runner hearts to make the flush change the math any as opposed to needing either/or on the next two cards?

[Mike Haven]

as you know, runner runner anythings are difficult to hit

my own belief is that if you need runner runner flush cards to an Ace three-card flush you can probably call the flush draw the equivalent of two outs when you are checking pot odds on the flop

whether or not you hit the first flush card on the turn obviously changes things to your having a nine-outer or a zero-outer as far as the flush draw on the turn is concerned

if you have say an Eight-high three-card flush on the flop, i would think you should count it only as the equivalent of a 1-outer in respect of pot odds calculations

there is no reason not to give half-outs to draws - you might decide that a Queen-high three-card flush draw is worth the equivalent of one-and-a-half outs on the flop