need a favor from people with substantial PT databases

[balkii]

82K hands 3/6

AA 2.44
KK 1.54
QQ 1.57
JJ 1.16
TT 0.84
99 0.82
AKs 0.89
AKo 0.83
AQs 1.01
AQo 0.25

Man those AQ numbers are funky.

[Schneids]

116,800 hands 10/20 6-max.

AA -- 2.44
KK -- 1.92
QQ -- 1.85
JJ -- 1.60
TT -- .90
88 -- .83
AKo -- .83
99 -- .80
KQs -- .58
AQo -- .55
AKs -- .54
AQs -- .09

[DeeJ]

When this happens to me I see if the board / other hands are to blame, or if I'm overplaying hands (or underplaying). Eg for AK, see if the proportion of flops have an A or a K in, and if this is lower than statistics would suggest, you have part of the answer; or whether when you hit someone else hit bigger (because this is also pretty rare with AKo). Someone else can probably do the math of the probability of someone playing a "normal" hand hitting better on the flop (than AK hitting an A / K).

I haven't got my stats at this PC but they aren't dissimilar from everyone elses (AA about 2.7 BB, KK about 1.7 from memory).

[sfer]

[ QUOTE ]
Apparently I need to leanr how to play AA better.

[/ QUOTE ]

I find that flopping sets is a good start.

[davidross]

How can you be making more with AKo and AQo than with AKs and AQs?

[sfer]

[ QUOTE ]
How can you be making more with AKo and AQo than with AKs and AQs?

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess the variance is so high in shorthanded that even 112K hands doesn't converge well.

[DrSavage]

[ QUOTE ]
How can you be making more with AKo and AQo than with AKs and AQs?

[/ QUOTE ]
The reason is with AKo you get to chase 2 possible flushes at the same time. It's clearly superior.

[Richie Rich]

[ QUOTE ]
Quote:
------------------------------------------------------------

How can you be making more with AKo and AQo than with AKs and AQs?

------------------------------------------------------------

The reason is with AKo you get to chase 2 possible flushes at the same time. It's clearly superior.

[/ QUOTE ]

...I needed that one. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[icepoker]

Party 5/10 6 max, 32k hands

Given my numbers it seems like I need more hands for real convergence in terms of amount won per hand.

AA - 2.21
KK - 2.21
QQ - 2.22
JJ - 1.06
TT - 1.13
99 - 0.61
AKs - 0.78
AKo - 0.92
AQs - 1.51
AQo - 0.79

[stir]

Pretty obvious 32K hands is not enough of a database when Q,Q is out performing BOTH A,A and K,K.

Or are you being tricky with the top two starters and limping sometimes??