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Old 05-02-2005, 02:45 PM
NickRegino NickRegino is offline
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Default Re: 77

I think I would have limped in rather than raise from UTG with 77, It is still too early to think about raising. You are out of position.
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:52 PM
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Nice analysis
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: 77

What if the king was an ace, what would u do then?
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:13 PM
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What if the king was an ace, what would u do then?

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Check-fold.
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:18 PM
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What if u had QQ and it was an ace?
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Old 05-02-2005, 04:13 PM
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this is an amazing post, it now makes sense, but i believe this should only pertain to the limits of 15-30 and up, as low limit players (and still many at the party 15) still bet the turn if checked to no matter what.

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i dont think this is true at all because lower limit players tend to be LESS aggressive than the party 15/30 players and is likely to check behing way more hands than you'd expect him too.

i'll often peel on the flop like nate says and if i have a showdownable hand i'll often peel on the turn too with the knowledge that people tend to not value bet rivers enough.
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Old 05-02-2005, 05:37 PM
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How does this line compare to your alternatives? There are ~7SB in the pot on the flop. If your opponent would fold AQ or 88 half the time then you have a profitable flop bet:

EV = (11/64)*(7) + (53/64)*(-1) = +.38SB

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Old 05-02-2005, 05:47 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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How does this line compare to your alternatives? There are ~7SB in the pot on the flop. If your opponent would fold AQ or 88 half the time then you have a profitable flop bet:

EV = (11/64)*(7) + (53/64)*(-1) = +.38SB

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Unless I've established a history with this player, it's hard for me to represent enough strength by just gaybetting here.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:08 PM
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if she checks behind on the turn with AQ and then bets the river can you call? will she bet AQ on the river? if so that seriuosly diminsihes your "3 outs"
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Analysis

in all honesty, this easily ranks as one of the 5 best posts I've read on 2+2, ahead of a lot of the famous Ed Miller posts. it is such a tough position to be in (IMO the second toughest behind blind defense) and you gave such a thorough analysis. this is an instant classic, and anyone who didn't get it needs to read it over and over and over untill they do
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