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Re: The Iranian Mullah : Another favorite son of US foreign policy
It would not be scary at all if we worked on building relations with Iraq rather than putting out rheteric like Axis of Evil which do nothing but get them working harder on their defences.
Most people here still dont realize where the Terrorist threat to the US comes from. Hint: it is not Iraq or Iran. The thing about the Manhattan project -- a modest attempt at a little tongue in a little cheek. |
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Re: The Iranian Mullah : Another favorite son of US foreign policy
I certainly do believe in personal responsibility. I just dont think it applies in this case and my real problem is how quick people are to look for the "American connection." Sometimes, it is important to do so. Most of the time when people do it just because it gives them an opportunity to show how evil the US is.
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Re: The Iranian Mullah : Another favorite son of US foreign policy
Part of personal responsibility is to critically and constantly examine your own behaviours. THis is true of your poker game and your politics. We spend way too much time critiquing others play while ignoring our own.
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Re: The Iranian Mullah : Another favorite son of US foreign policy
I won't speak for others here, just myself. The reasons I look for American fault/connections are listed below (probably not an exhaustive list, just off the top of my head):
1) are what we are personally responsible for, 2) are easiest to correct/amend (because it is internal), 3) don't interfere with other nation's sovereignty, 4) don't fuel additional international resentment (i.e. if it appears America is trying to fix others' problems without fixing their own first) |
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Part of personal responsibility is to critically and constantly examine your own behaviours. THis is true of your poker game and your politics. We spend way too much time critiquing others play while ignoring our own. [/ QUOTE ] As long as you don't presume the ability to predict the future. We must act based the information we have at the time - too many posts here presume we knew with certainty what the outcome of all our actions would be, and then blame us for those outcomes. |
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You do realize that it was the Manhattan project that opened the Nuclear pandora's box. Guess which country that was in? Note I made it easy by asking country, not state or city. Can you blame any country from trying to get it? Specially as terrorist states like Israel already have these weapons. [/ QUOTE ] If it weren't for the Chinese and that damn gunpowder ... |
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Re: The Iranian Mullah : Another favorite son of US foreign policy
There's certainly an aspect of that going on, but there's also something else. That something else is (to state it inartfully): if you do something that you shouldn't be doing and there are unintended/unforseen negative consequences, you are responsible. In criminal law there is something called the felony murder rule. The rule is, generically, that if you are committing a felony and someone dies in the commission of that felony (even if unintentional), you can be charged with murder. Even if the consequences weren't contemplated, you are held responsible because your bad actions got the ball rolling.
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Re: The Iranian Mullah : Another favorite son of US foreign policy
Maybe instead of worrying about predicting the future you should stop meddling in other countries' internal politics.
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Maybe instead of worrying about predicting the future you should stop meddling in other countries' internal politics. [/ QUOTE ] We can call that the Bill Clinton Plan. Then one day you wake up and discover that planes have been flown into some of our buildings. |
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Maybe instead of worrying about predicting the future you should stop meddling in other countries' internal politics. [/ QUOTE ] U.S. was on an isolationist footing until P.M. Chamberlain went and gummed up the works. If you limeys could have taken care of your own problems ... well hindsight is 20/20. |
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