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Old 12-19-2005, 07:41 AM
Blarg Blarg is offline
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I'd shoot anyone who got close to me with a knife. Most people probably don't realize how fast and easy a knife can kill you. Even holding a gun in your hand doesn't mean anything is over or that you really have control over the situation. All the more so when you're on your bed, where you have no mobility.

This is all a good argument for not having roommates, by the way. There's always some roommate who thinks scumbags are cute and invites them in for a free scope of your house. You should have at least one place safe in the world, and if you have roommates, you most definitely don't.

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Why does this sound so much like Skeme's post?

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I wrote mine before Skeme's was up, so it's nothing on my end.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:45 AM
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I wrote mine before Skeme's was up, so it's nothing on my end.

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Let's end this charade?
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:43 AM
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A couple of comments on the shoot in the kneecap, crotch, etc. suggestions.

I will not re-hash a shoot-to-kill vs. shoot-to-disable argument here, but, there is one crucial reason why if you have decided to shoot you do not try to shoot for any part of the body except for the center of mass unless you are extremely good.

In situations like the one described by the OP where you fear for your life you will be in flight or fight mode. Adrenaline will be pumping and you will most likely lose fine motor skills ( i.e. ability to acutely aim for a small target). Hence, the likelihood that you will hit an arm, crotch, or other specific body part is very unlikely unless you are highly-trained. This is why you aim for center of mass of your target. If you aim center of mass you have the highest likelihood to hit your target and eliminate the threat it poses.

So, if you have decided to shoot, this is where you aim.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:12 AM
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A couple of comments on the shoot in the kneecap, crotch, etc. suggestions.

I will not re-hash a shoot-to-kill vs. shoot-to-disable argument here, but, there is one crucial reason why if you have decided to shoot you do not try to shoot for any part of the body except for the center of mass unless you are extremely good.

In situations like the one described by the OP where you fear for your life you will be in flight or fight mode. Adrenaline will be pumping and you will most likely lose fine motor skills ( i.e. ability to acutely aim for a small target). Hence, the likelihood that you will hit an arm, crotch, or other specific body part is very unlikely unless you are highly-trained. This is why you aim for center of mass of your target. If you aim center of mass you have the highest likelihood to hit your target and eliminate the threat it poses.

So, if you have decided to shoot, this is where you aim.

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This is a good point. I'm not a marksman or great shot by any means, so id probably aim for his chest and end up blowing his knife-wielding hand clear off, making me look really bad-ass to the forensics people.

Hot forensics lady: You shot his hand right off! Thats remarkable
Me: Inside?
Hot forensics lady: What?
Me: Uhhh, what are you up to?
Hot forensics lady: Dont you have somewhere else to be, like, not here?
Me: ....Inside?
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:31 PM
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Hot forensics lady: You shot his hand right off! Thats remarkable
Me: Inside?
Hot forensics lady: What?
Me: Yeah, Inside? what are you up to?
Hot forensics lady: Dont you have somewhere else to be, like, not here?
Me: ....Inside?

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Old 12-20-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)

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A couple of comments on the shoot in the kneecap, crotch, etc. suggestions.

I will not re-hash a shoot-to-kill vs. shoot-to-disable argument here, but, there is one crucial reason why if you have decided to shoot you do not try to shoot for any part of the body except for the center of mass unless you are extremely good.

In situations like the one described by the OP where you fear for your life you will be in flight or fight mode. Adrenaline will be pumping and you will most likely lose fine motor skills ( i.e. ability to acutely aim for a small target). Hence, the likelihood that you will hit an arm, crotch, or other specific body part is very unlikely unless you are highly-trained. This is why you aim for center of mass of your target. If you aim center of mass you have the highest likelihood to hit your target and eliminate the threat it poses.

So, if you have decided to shoot, this is where you aim.

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This isn't the only reason. When you use deadly force in self-defense, you have to do so with the thought that your life is in danger. Grand juries will decide whether to press charges on you for murder, and if they feel that you really believed your life was danger you will get off without any problems. If you had the presence of mind to kneecap someone, then you clearly did not feel your life is in danger. Shoot them in the chest about 6 times is my advice.

Also, dead people can't hold grudges, kneecapped ones can.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:17 AM
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I'd shoot anyone who got close to me with a knife. Most people probably don't realize how fast and easy a knife can kill you.

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Knives (and swords etc.) actually do a TON more damage than guns. They just do it from a close distance. You can survive a small caliber bullet wound. It's much harder to survive a serious knife would to the torso.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:20 AM
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"By this logic, none of should play p*ker since statistics show most people will lose money at it."

Nothing like repeatedly quoting yourself but refusing to correct the readily apparent errors...



Hell no I would shoot someone for jacking my [censored]. Jesus Christ, its a few hundred dollars. What [censored] point would there be to shoot him? Oh my god, my gamecube! Die [censored]! No.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:28 AM
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What [censored] point would there be to shoot him?

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I still have my gamecube. He isn't stealing someone else's gamecubs tomorrow. He isn't stabbing me or someone else tomorrow.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:34 AM
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Yeah, I guess pre-empting a potential future gamecube theft is pretty much the weightiest concern running through someone's mind...

Very, very, very rarely do people engaged in petty theft stab or otherwise hurt anyone who isn't resisting in some way. As smarter posters than me already made abundantly clear in this thread, you run a big risk escalating the situation.

On a more personal level, you just [censored] suck. I like internet tough-guys like you, who shoot to protect their gamecubes...oh well, not my fault you completely and totally [censored] suck.
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