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[John Cole]

[Jim Kuhn]

Here is their link.

http://www.lp.org/issues/

I like their platforms! Tell me what you think. Thank you for checking it out.

[George Rice]

[Mark Heide]

Jim,

Last election I voted for Ralph Nader. So, this time I'm not going to vote for a party canidate that takes away votes from democrates and leaves the republicans in charge. Even though I do agree with some of their viewpoints, but not enough for me to back them.

Good Luck

Mark

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i voted fer nader too...not cause i liked him, but i feel until heat is put on both reps and dems; there is no concern about anything other than special interests...

p.s. anna grace is 13 today...days that is...she's gonna break some hearts..

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[Mano]

it's far from clear that the administion set out to deliberately deceive

Maybe it's just me, but when Colin Powell gave his speech on all the bad stuff that Iraq had he made it seem like we knew for certain what and where many of the WMD were (I seem to recall him going through a long laundry list explicitly stating what they had). If that was not the case, then I think it was deceptive.

[MMMMMM]

"Maybe it's just me, but when Colin Powell gave his speech on all the bad stuff that Iraq had he made it seem like we knew for certain what and where many of the WMD were (I seem to recall him going through a long laundry list explicitly stating what they had). If that was not the case, then I think it was deceptive."

Deception implies deliberate dishonesty. If the US government, along with other intelligence services, were wrong, then they were wrong. I think there's a difference between unknowingly telling an untruth, and telling a lie.

[Mano]

The problem I have is that the way it was presented made it seem that they knew all these things for a fact, which clearly they did not.

[brad]

its funny i talk to people all the time (and i have an intimate way of speaking i guess we talk about all kinds of things, most people term it 'argumentative' heh)

and every once in a while theyll say something about a contract and the other guy is in violation of it somehow and i of course immediatelyh ask them 'well is there a penalty clause' (in the contract)? and of course they are kinda dumbfounded.

so i think we have the same thing here. they said trust us, we have proof, and we (the congress) shouldve said, well, ok, but if youre wrong (penalty clause) then your gov is done (easier in a parliamentary system).

[ACPlayer]

I think there's a difference between unknowingly telling an untruth, and telling a lie.

You are correct. IMO, they were NOT unknowingly telling an untruth. Specially if you believe, as do it, that to make a case for war they should be telling the whole truth as they know it.