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Old 11-21-2005, 05:26 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

He never has like QQ with the Q of club here?

Even if he does, I can't imagine he has it often enough to make this not a fold. Does he know you're you? Does this matter?
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

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yeah you're gone, he is begging for you to raise him..

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Well, I'm not going to raise. I think the pot might be big enough that I could call. I dunno though.

Rob
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

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yeah you're gone, he is begging for you to raise him..

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Well, I'm not going to raise. I think the pot might be big enough that I could call. I dunno though.

Rob

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You aren't closing the action.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:29 PM
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No one thinks that I can call with what is almost always a 4-outer getting 13:1 and fold the river UI?

Rob

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There's a LAG behind you. I think 4 outs on average is generous.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

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No one thinks that I can call with what is almost always a 4-outer getting 13:1 and fold the river UI?


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I thought about this when I first read the hand, but I don't think you can with the LAG behind you. I can't run the math in my head and have to run to a meeting, but having to put in two some XX% of the time really pushes this to a fold for me.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:30 PM
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No one thinks that I can call with what is almost always a 4-outer getting 13:1 and fold the river UI?

Rob

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There's a LAG behind you.

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I understand that. If there weren't a LAG behind me there's really no debating a call.

I'm pretty sure the LAG (30/22/1.8) would have capped a flush draw on the flop and he's not a retard or a maniac, just a bad handreader that gives too much preflop and flop action occasionally.

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Old 11-21-2005, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

I think your 4 outs are discounted from the times the LAG has a 7 or a made flush he will raise forcing you to put more bets in drawing to 2 outs at times.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

I have to say this is an easy call for me. Am I the only one to think this?

He has 4 outs getting 12:1 if he hits a 7 or a K giving him more then likely the best hand.

I'm thinking Metetron would have 3 bet here if he had AA.

Why does everyone want to fold so much??
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

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I have to say this is an easy call for me. Am I the only one to think this?

He has 4 outs getting 12:1 if he hits a 7 or a K giving him more then likely the best hand.

I'm thinking Metetron would have 3 bet here if he had AA.

Why does everyone want to fold so much??

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The LAG might raise cutting our odds.

We might be drawing dead to 77.

We might be drawing to two outs to AA. We might be against a freerolling KK.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed against Metetron and a LAG

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The LAG might raise cutting our odds.

We might be drawing dead to 77.

We might be drawing to two outs to AA. We might be against a freerolling KK

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I dont think you will be drawing dead to 77 often enough not to make this call.

KK would have more then likely have 3 bet the flop.

The LAG raising here might reduce our odds but it depends on the LAG.

You still may have the best hand. Metetron could just as well be holding QQ or JJ with the Q or J clubs or AK with the A clubs.

This is 3 handed with 2 TAgs and a LAg after all.

Metetron could make the flop call with AK and the A clubs getting 8:1 with the nut flush backdoor draw draw and
2 overs, it's 3 handed
I still make the call and fold the river UI
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