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#12
11-03-2005, 02:14 PM
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Re: Bubble time - AK - Line check
your starting hand is not relevant in pulling off the stop n go. your chips stack is. your opponents chip stack is. your table image is. a read on your opponent is. the flop is also relevant. your starting hand is not. obviously we would all like to have decent cards in any situation where we are putting our chips in to the pot, but alas it is not always to be. "play your opponents, not the cards"
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#13
11-03-2005, 02:18 PM
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Re: Bubble time - AK - Line check
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stop n go arent good with AK, please people stop saying to sng with AK. [/ QUOTE ] stop making a rule.. a stop and go could be good here.. i'm a bit lazy to look back up at the situation.. but i'd like to point out this is a satelite, so anything that would increase the % that you win the hand, would probably be more important than maximizing cEV here
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#15
11-03-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: Bubble time - AK - Line check
Push push push. Any other raise you make should only be done with the intent of getting all-in on this hand.
A stop and go doesn't make much sense because it's designed to induce a fold; here we are perfectly happy to get our chips in. You notice how much bigger top prize is than 9th place? That's why the bubble doesn't matter. And for [bleep]'s sake, you almost certainly have the best hand, anyway! Talking in terms of folding this hand, ever, is foolish.
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#16
11-03-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: Bubble time - AK - Line check
Easy push.
If I was at myself on this board and had a read on the BB saying that he loves to raise when it gets limped/folded to him I would just call and pushing to his raise. BUt since I don't have a read on him, I would push instantly. Also, a push here may come out as weak to him meaning he can call with A10+ any broadway and any pair.
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#17
11-03-2005, 04:02 PM
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Re: Bubble time - AK - Line check
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[ QUOTE ] stop n go arent good with AK, please people stop saying to sng with AK. [/ QUOTE ] stop making a rule.. a stop and go could be good here.. i'm a bit lazy to look back up at the situation.. but i'd like to point out this is a satelite, so anything that would increase the % that you win the hand, would probably be more important than maximizing cEV here [/ QUOTE ] Wow, ignore me, i just cheecked and i was thinking this was the AK satelite hand. I'm an idiot. -- Push
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#18
11-03-2005, 07:01 PM
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Re: Bubble time - AK - Line check
1) If 9th place money is very meaningful to you, then fold. I assume it's not. At least it shouldn't be, or maybe you're playing too high a tournament. Otherwise, you have way too good a hand to fold, so let's discount that.
2) A standard raise to 6K or 8K can easily be reraised by a hand you are dominating or at least a coinflip with a big overlay. You CAN'T fold to a reraise and now you are CALLING off all your chips on the bubble with no pair, a much weaker spot than raising all-in. 3) A standard raise which gets called, you will miss the flop 2/3 of the time. With 16K in the pot and 14K in your stack, you must either push all in with nothing or check and fold with a strong hand. 4) BY process of elimination, a push all-in seems to be the best choice. If you get called you are either a coinflip or dominating (except in the rare case of AA or KK, in which case them's the breaks and you might miss out on the 9th place money) and if you hold up you have an excellent shot at 1st place prize money. 5) One other advantage of the all-in here. BB folds, you show the AK, now you have added FE next time you push with J7o. That could easily be worth an extra 5K in chips a round or two later.
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